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Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Handley.

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I will ask Mr. Voytilla to answer this. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
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Voytilla

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When an item is urgent, there is provision in the act for the Financial Management Board Secretariat to recommend a special warrant to the Commissioner. That is for emergencies that arise. There are other requirements that arise that generally we try to anticipate and seek approval through a supplementary appropriation in advance of the liability being incurred.

After having said that, it is not always possible, with the schedule of the House and the knowledge that comes to us, to get things in front of the Legislature exactly before a liability is incurred or an expenditure is made. We make our best efforts in that regard. The recognition is, that if the Assembly, in the course of the year, disapproves a supplementary that has not been authorized by a special warrant, then we would have to, as a government, look for some other way to finance that need from within the already approved estimates through reallocations. Essentially, we can incur the expenditure in advance of the authority but if that authority is denied, then we have to be ready to reallocate. Of course, that gets much tougher the closer you get to the end of the fiscal year, which is the situation we face on this supplementary. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Ms. Lee.

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. May I ask the Minister what would happen if this supplementary was not approved as it is presented?

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Handley.

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, one of two things would happen. First, we could use other funds that are lapsing to cover off the shortfall resulting from the nonapproval. Second, we would overspend, in which case we would have to answer to why we overspent without the authorization. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Ms. Lee

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

I just need one further clarification, Mr. Chairman. The Minister mentioned that this money was already spent but, at the same time, that some money could lapse. Could the Minister confirm as to whether or not the money has been spent?

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I cannot confirm that every dollar has been spent. This is an estimate. We will know in the near future how much of the money has actually been spent. If there were a lapse at all, we would then find out how big it would be. We never know until all of the accounting is done at the end of the year. This is the best estimate we have. Thank you.

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Ms. Lee

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Could the Minister or the deputy minister tell us when the last time was that a supplementary was not approved?

Committee Motion 4-14(2): To Amend The Schedule To Bill 6: Interim Appropriation Act, 2000-2001 (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, not in our recollection was there ever a supplementary not approved.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Detail?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Have we agreed to go cost by cost?

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Some Hon. Members

No.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Page 6 of the detail - Executive operations and maintenance not previously authorized. Ministers' Offices - $151,500. Mr. Braden.

Committee Motion 5-14(2): To Delete $75,000 From The Ministers Offices In The Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 1999-2000 (carried)
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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Mr. Chairman, I move that the amount of $75,000 be deleted from the Supplementary Appropriation, No. 4, detail, under operations and maintenance, for the Department of the Executive under the activity Ministers' Offices.

Committee Motion 5-14(2): To Delete $75,000 From The Ministers Offices In The Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 1999-2000 (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. To the motion. Ms. Lee

Committee Motion 5-14(2): To Delete $75,000 From The Ministers Offices In The Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 1999-2000 (carried)
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Mr. Chairman, I do not know the rules, but is there not a requirement for someone to explain why this motion is here?

Committee Motion 5-14(2): To Delete $75,000 From The Ministers Offices In The Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 1999-2000 (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

There is no requirement to explain the motion. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Thank you.

Executive Offices, not previously authorized for $76,500. Agreed?

Committee Motion 5-14(2): To Delete $75,000 From The Ministers Offices In The Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 1999-2000 (carried)
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.