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Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we have it broken up into regional money. The $2,470,000 goes out to all the regions. It is divided up among the regions. That is for both regional parks and tourism. The grant or contribution service contract and one salary of $100,000 to the NWT Arctic Tourism Association comes out of the other $2 million. The amount that is given to the Arctic Tourism Association is the $921,000 we made reference to.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Ms. Lee.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As you can see, Mr. Chairman, this is a little bit confusing. I had heard this information in the committee process as well. Is the Minister saying that Arctic Tourism is getting $921,000 plus $100,000 for salary?

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I will give you three figures. We make a contribution agreement of $279,000 to the NWT Arctic Tourism. There is a service contract for marketing of $542,000. There is an executive director's salary that we pay for, of $100,000. That totals to $921,000. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Ms. Lee.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, may I ask how much money the department has allocated as tourism...I guess we cannot break down tourism and parks because that is how the department is set, but may I have a breakdown on how much money goes to paying for the salaries and benefits and other related costs, such as office equipment, travel and so on, for the staff as opposed to actual tourism marketing as most people know it, as a fund that promotes and tries to create an identity for the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, again, we can easily break out parks and tourism except, roughly, $2.5 million is allocated to tourism. Roughly $2 million goes to parks. In salaries, a total for all of the salaries there is $644,000 in headquarters. The balance, of roughly $900,000, is for salaries in the regions. Now, there is a total amount for salaries of $1,490,000.

It is very difficult, though, to breakout and say that the salaries are not marketing because some of the main responsibilities of these people is marketing, particularly in the regions. We have staff in Inuvik, Norman Wells and so on, whose jobs are marketing. That is what they do. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Ms. Lee.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Mr. Chairman, to go back to the figures that the Minister gave on the money that goes to the Northwest Territories Arctic Tourism. First of all, I would like to know if there is any distinction between Northwest Territories Arctic Tourism and Northwest Territories Tourism Association. Under grants and contributions, the only group we see is the Tourism Association. Could you answer that?

I am just wondering, on the contribution agreement and service contract, what other terms and conditions of this money... do they have any obligations that they have to follow when they spend this money in terms of how they spend it? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

That was two questions, Ms. Lee. Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, there is only one Northwest Territories Arctic Tourism Association. We may call it the Tourism Association, but there is only one organization that we fund. They get $100,000, which is for the executive director's salary and the benefits that go with it. So that is clearly for that.

There is a service contract that they have with us for marketing, which is $542,000, and then, in addition to that, there is a contribution agreement for $279,000, which is for the other sorts of activities that they are involved in, in addition to marketing. They have contracts. They have some staff costs and so on.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Mr. Chairman, I am aware of those figures. The Minister provided them to me earlier. I wrote it down, so I do not think I need that repeated. I want to know if there are any conditions to attach to how they spend this money. Are they allowed to do whatever they want with that money? I mean, as the groups objectively sees fit?

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I think I just told the Member how it is spent. The $100,000 has to be spent on the executive director's salary and benefits. That is what it is spent on. There is $542,000 which they have to spend on marketing. I cannot tell you exactly what marketing they are doing. I know they attend a lot of shows and they host things and so on. Then there is $279,000 in contribution agreements. They do a number of things on that. They maintain a website, they do contracts, they are working on a tourism strategy right now that I have seen draft copies of, and so on.

These three categories are the conditions that outline how they have to spend the money. We do not tell them though, in marketing, for example, exactly how to spend the marketing money.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

This tourism group has to have more than an executive director to run the place, so the money that they need to pay for their office space and have the marketing persons to do the marketing, that would all come out of this budget. Is that correct, Mr. Chairman?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

They have an executive director. They have some staff who man a 1-800 line, and do other work for the tourism association, but the budget that they have does not allow them to have a very big staff. Offhand, I am not sure exactly how many staff they have. Five all together, and they are not necessarily full-time. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Ms. Lee.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Could the Minister advise as to whether the funding for the Northern Frontiers Visitors Association comes out of this budget?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Yes, Mr. Chairman, the money for the Arctic Tourism Association comes out of the Arctic Tourism line, the $4.5 million.