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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister just made a statement, moving around positions within the allowable limits. Can he expand on that? What areas of transfer have happened? What is the limit? Are we talking about a $250,000 amount? Can he expand on that? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There is no set dollar amount that can be transferred by the department or by the Minister within the department. There is no $250,000 limit, or anything like that. As long as the transfers are within the mandate of the department, there can be money moved. That is why it is difficult to list everything in this revised estimate for you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can the Minister state that there is no requirement to inform the committee and Members of the Assembly of any shift over $250,000 within the department? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, there is no limit, as I said. Anything over $250,000 is reported through the Financial Management Board Secretariat. The Members do have access to those. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can the Minister inform us how, with the Financial Management Board Secretariat, how does that get back to Members? Is it particular funding that is changed, capital or O and M from a community, or does it go back to the committee?

My understanding as a Member of the previous Assembly, $250,000, if a figure was moved from anywhere, even if it was from within the same department, the committee had to be informed about this, resulting from a motion of the 13th Assembly. Has that changed? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The rules have changed, if I remember correctly, within the last year, year and a half, possibly two years. It used to be that there was a requirement for approval from the Financial Management Board for those interactivity transfers. Now it has changed to being a requirement to report them. Then there is a report on the interactivity transfers.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can the Minister provide us with the information he has regarding all of the changes that have occurred? He has definitely sparked my interest in all of the interactivity changes that have happened, in light of the rules that, according to the Minister, have been changed. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we can provide...are you asking for all of the transfers or all of the transfers over $250,000? If you want all of the transfers, it may take us a couple of days to do it. The others are reported by FMBS.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am requesting the Minister provide all Members with a breakdown of the difference between the amount shown and the revised main estimates, the amount of $3,814,000, as revised in the actual amount spent. Can he provide that information?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, yes, we will provide that.

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Handley. We are dealing with corporate management, operations and expenses. General comments or questions? Corporate management, operations and expenses, total operations and expenses, $11,796,000. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, for process here, we are going to wait for some information regarding the revised main estimates and the changes. I just want information now. I know the actual call for agreement is the actual numbers. By moving on from this stage, does that mean I cannot return to this issue when we receive the information?

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June 25th, 2000

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Roland. We can approve it as is, or we can defer this matter and have it come back for debate once you receive the information. In order to do that, you need to move a motion to defer. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that we defer approval of page 11-9 until we have the information the Minister has agreed to provide.

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Roland. I believe your motion is out of order. You have to have a motion based on what we are dealing with under corporate management. Mr. Roland.