Debates of June 26th, 2000

This is page numbers 133 - 184 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Economic Strategy Panel
Youth Activities In The Northwest Territories
Dogrib Treaty 11 Council Advertising Campaign
Activities At Range Lake North School
Government Programs For Children And Families
Student Financial Assistance
Challenges Facing The Deh Cho Tourism Industry
Delays In Constructing Inuvik Capital Projects
Support For Families Of Medical Patients
Student Financial Assistance
Yellowknife Rotary Club's Kids Ahead Program
Treaty Day Celebrations And Band Council Election Results
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Questions 49-14(3): Financing Construction Of The Inuvik Regional Hospital
Student Financial Assistance Payment Options
Addressing Youth And Families At Risk
Proposed Hotel Tax Revenue
North Slave Medical Services
Changes To The Student Financial Assistance Program
Student Financial Assistance Eligibility
Inuvik Regional Hospital
Direction To GNWT Negotiators
Meeting With Federal Transport Minister
Response To Student Financial Assistance Questions
Post-secondary Student Expenses
Financial Assistance For Disabled Students
Inuvik Regional Hospital
Location Of Dempster Weigh Scale
Tabled Document 10-14(3): Common Ground: Northwest Territories Economic Strategy 2000
Tabled Document 11-14(3): Yellowknife Newspaper Advertisement Entitled Self-government In JeopardyTabled Document 12-14(3): News/north Newspaper Advertisement Entitled Self-government In Jeopardy
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 23: Orders Of The Day

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question regarding how the money has been allocated. You mentioned there are funds given to different interest groups. Is this done on a first come, first served basis, or is this just direct funding? Is there any call for proposals? The point I am trying to make is the whole question about sole-sourced contracts, or people accessing funds where other people might not know about them or have access to apply for the funds.

I would like to know if there is a process for allocating these grants. Were they done in an open fashion where people had an opportunity to apply for these dollars?

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, there is only a limited amount of money available under this program. This year it is $364,000. We do circulate and provide to everybody, all the regions, the Energy Conservation Program Guidelines. That document goes out to everyone. From then on, it becomes a matter of individuals or companies who are interested putting in an application. Some years, we run out of money before it is all spent. I expect in the future, as there is more interest in this, that will be the case.

So far, it has been on an application basis, depending on people's interest. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Questions or comments? Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In grants and contributions, I was talking about the area of other expenditures, but the list you mentioned, the document you showed, was that for the grants and contributions, $554,000?

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the $554,000 on grants and contributions the Member is referring to is made up of $364,000 I referred to for energy conservation, plus $190,000, which is a grant to the Energy Alliance. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Questions or comments? Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move we report progress.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

We have a motion to report progress. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is defeated. Total operations and expenses, $1,951,000. Questions or comments? Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the Minister when we will be getting that list of the items he mentioned under other expenses. There were 16 items.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I have a copy of it here. It is just a matter of making copies for the Members. In addition to this, we have the contribution to the Energy Alliance. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was hoping we could get that list before we finish the review of this department.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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June 26th, 2000

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The copies will be made. We are on environmental protection, operations expense, total operations expense, $1,951,000.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Page 11-15, environmental protection, grants and contributions, contributions, $554,000, total contributions, $554,000. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just for clarification, regarding the Arctic Energy Alliance, are they on a sole-source contract basis? The $190,000, is that a direct contract for services, or was this a negotiated contract?

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, The Energy Alliance is a non-profit, cooperative venture between RWED, Housing Corporation, Power Corporation and a number of other partners in it, most of whom make some contribution. The $190,000 is our contribution. The purpose of the Energy Conservation is to bring many other stakeholders into the consultation that goes on. It is a cooperative venture among a number of government departments and other groups. It is not a contract in the same sense we would have a contract for hauling gravel. This is a non-profit group whose mandate is the promotion of energy conservation and good practices in that area. The $190,000 is RWED's share. The only negotiation is with our other partners. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So it is not a contract. Is there any documentation on exactly how this money is going to be spent? What is the reporting mechanism? As part of the $190,000, what do we get for that?

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 6-14(3): To Defer Activity, Corporate Management, Rwed (carried)
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we give a contribution. There is a contribution agreement that spells out the terms. The partners in the Energy Alliance meet on a regular basis to review the business plans. The Energy Alliance does prepare business plans, the same as a government department would. They report annually to the steering committee, the partners, on what their activities are, what their priorities are and how the money is being spent. Thank you.