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Committee Motion 19-14(3): Recommendation That The GNWT Not Make Any Further Reductions In Funding To The Northwest Territories Transportation System (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Chairman, I have been advised that 100 percent of the funding is provided by the Alaska projects. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That was not my question. My question was what percent of the partnership arrangement is ours in Alaska, since you said that we have a partner in regard to the project in Alaska. I would like to know what the arrangement is that we have regarding this partnership?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Basically, we are just the contractor for the projects. That is the extent of our involvement. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to being the contractor, what was your profit margin based on? Was it the management contract or was it actually the construction of the facility?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Beaulieu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The profits were based on the contract that we signed with the various groups in Alaska, minus the costs to deliver the projects to Alaska to a completed stage.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to a question of the policy not being implemented in Alaska, the Minister stated earlier this afternoon that you do not have actual control of the contract, but you have the contract. I was not too clear with what the Minister said, because you are not in charge of the actual dollars in the contract, but now it is a contract. A contract means that you are going to build something within a specific price. I am wondering how is it that we are not able to use the Business Incentive Policy or the manufacturers' policy, yet we have a contract. What was the reasoning for not being able to do it in regards to having a contract?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Beaulieu

The Business Incentive Policy was not applied because it is a policy that compares northern and local businesses with southern businesses. In all cases where we have done any work in Alaska, we have gone with 100 percent northern preference and we have only invited companies within the Northwest Territories to bid on the jobs.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to the question of bidding on the jobs, from what I hear from the manufacturers and the companies that wanted to bid on the jobs, the actual purchase of the materials was in southern Canada and brought through the Northwest Territories. If that is the case, why is it that we could not actually supply all these materials from the Northwest Territories, instead of having to bring it in through Alberta?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Chairman. Again, I would ask Mr. Beaulieu to respond to that technical question.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Beaulieu

When we dealt with the Alaska projects, like I said, we dealt with companies that were registered in the Northwest Territories and also in one specific project, the seniors five-plex in Stebbins . We dealt with companies within the Northwest Territories that also had a license to work in Alaska.

Those companies, from what we understand from the information we have, also bought their materials from another northern company. As far as the interim manufacturers directive goal or the supply of northern manufacturer products, in all cases where applicable, we provided or supplied northern manufactured products directly on the project.

In cases where there was no necessity for northern manufactured products, an example would be in communities where there was a utilidor system, there is no need for tankage. Therefore, we did not require northern manufactured tankage.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. General comments. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to a question raised by Members of Yellowknife and Fort Smith, I think the Minister stated that a lot of our elders are moving to the larger centres like Yellowknife and Fort Smith.

I know for a fact, a lot of families want to ensure that their elders stay in the aboriginal communities and they do not want to see them leave their communities, even to go to Inuvik.

So I would like to ask the Minister, what is he doing to ensure that the seniors, especially from the aboriginal communities, stay within their communities and not have to go to these regional centres to access seniors' facilities? What are we doing to enhance the facilities for seniors in our communities?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is one of the first tasks we undertook when we got assigned the portfolio, to deal with seniors, because they thought it was culturally unacceptable to be moved. So we then came upon the task of evaluating the needs assessments in relation to the according survey and again, just for confirmation here, in a number of small communities, we will be developing 91 new senior independent units in the course of the next four years.

We feel that should address the seniors core needs in housing. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.