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Committee Motion 19-14(3): Recommendation That The GNWT Not Make Any Further Reductions In Funding To The Northwest Territories Transportation System (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Chairman, thank you. We are prepared to commit to continue to support the homeless on an interim basis until we can come together with the other two participating departments to come to a more concrete plan and involve those supporting agencies. Thank you.

Committee Motion 19-14(3): Recommendation That The GNWT Not Make Any Further Reductions In Funding To The Northwest Territories Transportation System (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the Minister's commitment and I will make sure that his office is contacted forthwith to start the process. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

General comments. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have one issue I would like to address with the Minister as coming forth with his budget for $43 million and change. The issue is that of accountability, which we have discussed at length in this House over the past number of weeks. I would like the Minister's comment and position on the issue of accountability, as Minister, for this budget and for the business plan of the Housing Corporation. How does he see his role in that process? Thank you.

Committee Motion 19-14(3): Recommendation That The GNWT Not Make Any Further Reductions In Funding To The Northwest Territories Transportation System (carried)
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July 5th, 2000

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Minister Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. In response to the Member's question, Mr. Chairman, we have worked very closely with our senior officials from the Housing Corporation to identify in terms of housing needs, in terms of involving the Ordinary Members in the number of programs that we deliver to the communities. I feel that our budget reflects a very subtle budget. I do not see us having any forced growth. I could ask Mr. Beaulieu if he has any further comments on the financial aspects of the budget and the technical aspects.

I believe from a ministerial point of view, we have stayed within the perimeters of our budgetary estimates. With the ongoing process of trying to find suitable solutions to our ongoing housing shortages across the Territory, I feel that we have met some of those issues under our mandate. Thank you.

Committee Motion 19-14(3): Recommendation That The GNWT Not Make Any Further Reductions In Funding To The Northwest Territories Transportation System (carried)
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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am interested in a clear statement by the Minister about ministerial accountability for the department, the strategies, the targets, the business plan and budget. In light of the comment, as I have indicated a number of times already in the House, by the Premier that there is no clear measurable way in which to make this government, Ministers and deputy ministers, accountable for not meeting targets.

All the Ministers who have preceded him have stated quite clearly that in fact they are accountable for their budgets for their department to this House and that is why they are at the table. I was wondering if the Minister of the Housing Corporation could speak to that issue as well, in terms of his accountability. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Minister Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was quite certain that I had given the Member an answer here. I do believe that we have conformed to the basic principles here in trying to address the budgets. I am not sure what the Member is trying to achieve further then what I am answering. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. At the risk of beating a dead dog, as my colleague, Mr. Nitah, would say, what I was hoping for was basically an "I" statement from the Minister. That, as the Minister, yes, he is accountable for his budget and business plan and the department as it appears before this Legislative Assembly. That was the short version of what I was hoping to hear the Minister say.

I did get some helpful information, but it was in the plural of we and the reality is that it is not his officials that speak. It is the Minister. That was the point I was trying to get on the record here, so that it is clear for every department and every Minister that has appeared before us. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Minister Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I always like to feel part of a collective group and I often refer to myself as we, because I do represent a large group of people. For the record, I will be accountable for this department. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I apologize, I did not realize the Minister was speaking in the royal we. It is clear now, so I can appreciate the we. We are not amused.

Mr. Chairman, one question on some of the motions that are going to be coming up, but as a department, as a Corporation that has a significant role to play in the delivery of services to seniors, I would like it if the Minister could comment briefly on how he intends to bring together services for seniors in a more integrated, streamlined way. A way that recognizes the need for one-stop-shopping for seniors. Also, a way that recognizes the fact that statistics and demographics show, they are a burgeoning part of our population that is only going to increase. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will try to answer part of the question and turn it over to my colleague here, the president of the Housing Corporation.

The drive to address senior housing problems was pretty well documented through our travels. We see a great increase in seniors retiring in communities such as Hay River and Fort Smith, the garden capital of the Northwest Territories. Also, predictions that we need to work with the senior societies across the Northwest Territories, so they have input into how they want their seniors' homes developed, so they can continue to live in peace and quiet and with some security. That is the ethics behind our reason for travelling to the communities.

On the technical side, to answer that question further, I would ask if Mr. Beaulieu would have something further to add.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Beaulieu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The strategy for the Housing Corporation to address seniors' needs is necessitated by the results of the needs survey, which indicate that seniors are in the highest need group. 32 percent of all seniors households in the Northwest Territories have some form of housing need compared to 28 percent of single people and as a group in total including families, which is 20 percent.

We are interested in working with other departments and various community organizations and various seniors societies in trying to develop a housing strategy to address the more serious needs in communities where the needs are greatest.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like at this point to acknowledge the role that the Housing Corporation has played in my community. Especially in light of the comments from the Minister of Transportation, which clearly reminded me that Ministers like to hear a kind word occasionally.

I do acknowledge the work and the involvement of the Minister coming to the community and riding of Thebacha and the work done by his staff, both at the headquarters level, at the district level, at the community level. It is much appreciated, dealing with all the community issues that were raised when he was there.

On that note, I would like to ask the Minister or president, could he just outline for me, the schedule that is in place to deal with the air circulation at the Sunset Chalet? I was home on July 1st and I was talking to some of the residents there. They indicated there was nothing underway yet and that it was dreadfully hot and there were still some problems. I was wondering what the construction schedule is. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Allen.