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Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question today is for the Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development. It is following the line of questions I asked yesterday and those asked today by Mr. McLeod.

The Minister gave an answer to the Member for Deh Cho on the Interim Measures Agreement. There seems to be a little bit of disparity between the Interim Measures Agreement signed between the federal government, the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Deh Cho, and the federal government, the territorial government, and the Akaitcho. Is there a discrepancy between these two agreements? The department seems to be dealing with these two groups, who seemingly have the same agreement, differently. What is the difference, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, yes, we cannot assume that the two agreements are the same because they are negotiated by two different aboriginal leaderships.

The main fundamental difference between the two is that in the case of the Deh Cho Interim Measures Agreement, a process is laid out quite clearly for dealing with various issues that either protection or action needs to be taken. In the case of the Akaitcho Interim Measures Agreement, there are no schedules negotiated so all we have is the framework document without any detail of what the processes will be. I assume those are yet to be negotiated. Thank you.

Return To Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the spirit of due process and the spirit of intent of these negotiated agreements, would the Minister consider holding off of the granting of the permit to Mr. Patterson until such schedules are negotiated, so that there is a clear process and understanding by all people involved? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I do not believe that I have the authority to be able to do that. I think that is something that has to be negotiated with the Akaitcho leadership, Akaitcho negotiators. Certainly we have been discussing how to handle this issue with our Department of Justice as well as my Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development.

I also have, as I indicated before, a letter for Minister Nault, but all I can say at this time is I urge the negotiators to get on with finalizing those schedules so we have clear direction. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister explain why his department cannot move on a political issue? He has to react to a suggestion or direction from the Mackenzie Valley Board -- so that people can understand in TV land and in the House here today, why can the Minister not just say no? Mr. Speaker, why can he not just say no? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, anytime the government is asked to issue permits or licences, it has to do so within existing guidelines, regulations, legislation. We cannot just arbitrarily say yes or no. I have to work with the legislation, regulations, guidelines and policies that exist.

If I did not do that and just arbitrarily said yes or no to permits, then I think I would be opening up our government to being sued by individuals and companies who feel they have a legitimate right to apply for and receive an application.

I have to work with what is there already. I cannot make assumptions about what might be in the future or what political consideration might have to be taken into account. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Question 129-14(4): Interim Measures Agreements
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

October 23rd, 2001

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement, I made reference to the community of Aklavik's concerns of exactly where on the drawing board is the curling rink that was promised to the community of Aklavik and has shown up in several five-year capital planning processes. It was supposed to be in place for 2003-04, and constructed in 2004-05.

Mr. Speaker, the community has been fundraising for this, to have the facility replaced so that they can feel ownership of the project. Yet, Mr. Speaker, the community is now in the dark on exactly where we are with regard to having their curling rink being replaced, knowing the one they have in their community has been condemned and shut down for several years. The latest reports we have say it is not worthwhile for this government to do any work to replace it.

I would like to ask the Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs exactly where is the Aklavik Curling Rink Project in the five-year capital planning process?

Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Allen.

Return To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to respond in the context of what happened to the curling rink. It was condemned because of various contraventions of the Public Health Act and the regulations. The important thing here, Mr. Speaker, is that we have gone into Aklavik to do an assessment of the curling rink. We felt there was still some opportunity to refurbish it, to extend the life of the curling rink. We have not heard back from the community whether that was acceptable or not at this point. Thank you.

Return To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Allen. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Supplementary To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is good to know the history, but the question was where in the five-year capital planning process, where there was supposed to be expenditures made in 2002, 2003, 2004 in regard to $50,000 being spent on the design work and $665,000 for the curling rink. Can the Minister tell me exactly where are those resources that are supposed to be allocated for a curling rink?

Supplementary To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Allen.

Further Return To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, the curling rink was removed from the capital planning process due to the fact that there were other priorities developed through the filtering. One was the importance of our expenditure on the quality of water, which took a great amount of our capital planning budget, as well as fire protection, which was another important part for the protection of the people. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Supplementary To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister tell us exactly who removed this from the capital planning process and when is this government going to reinstate that project?

Supplementary To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Two questions there, Minister Allen.

Further Return To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand that it is a government-wide planning process. I think it is under review by this House. That is as much knowledge as I have on the subject. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Supplementary To Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Question 130-14(4): Status Of Aklavik Curling Rink
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I find it interesting that the review is going to take place in this House, which is something new to probably all of the Members on this side of the House, where we have not had any input into that process.

I would like to ask the Minister when that is going to take place in this House? How is a community such as Aklavik going to have input into this new planning process that you mentioned?