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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development reviewed Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicles Act, at its meetings on October 29 and November 1, 2001.

This bill amends the Motor Vehicles Act to remove some of the few remaining exemptions for wearing a seat belt in a motor vehicle. The bill does allow for exemptions to drivers of a bus, emergency or enforcement vehicle.

The bill as originally drafted also removed the exemption that allows persons to ride in the box of a truck in certain circumstances.

The committee would like to thank the Honourable Vince Steen, Minister of Transportation, and his officials who appeared before the committee to present the bill and respond to the issues raised by the committee.

Members of the committee would also like to thank Mr. Percy Kinney, chief coroner of the Northwest Territories, for his very helpful comments concerning the dangers of high-risk behaviour and injury prevention.

Some committee members expressed concern for the needs of the residents of our smaller communities. It was felt that communities should have the power to permit riding in the box of a truck within their boundaries as the transportation needs in those situations can be quite different than for larger centres.

For these reasons, amendments to the bill were proposed which would permit a community to pass a by-law or regulation permitting persons to ride in the box of a truck when the vehicle is being operated at 25 kilometres per hour or less. The committee considered whether all communities in the Territories would have the capacity, either by community by-law or request to the Minister, to effect the exemption on a local basis. The committee is satisfied that all communities have the ability in one of the two methods outlined in the amendment.

The committee also considered whether the bill should be amended to include unincorporated communities or band councils respecting the ability to pass by-laws or regulations for this exemption. However, such an amendment would accord a capacity to these communities that they do not otherwise have under other governing legislation.

Mr. Chairman, these motions to amend Bill 8 were passed by a majority of the committee and the Minister concurred with these amendments. Committee members may have additional comments or questions on this bill during the review in committee of the whole.

The concludes the committee's comments on Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicles Act. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Roland. At this time, I would like to offer the Minister the opportunity to bring in witnesses. Mr. Minister, would you like to bring in witnesses?

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Yes, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair David Krutko

Does the committee agree the Minister may bring in witnesses?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair David Krutko

Sergeant-at-Arms, can you escort the witnesses in? Mr. Minister, for the record, would you please introduce your witnesses?

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I have with me on my right, Peter Vician, deputy minister of Transportation; Gary Walsh, director, road licensing and safety, Department of Transportation; and Mark Aitken, director, legislation division, Department of Justice.

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Welcome, witnesses. General comments? Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The intent of this bill was very straightforward and long overdue to catch us up with the rest of Canada in what is really a very common sense choice that people have to use seatbelts. As the Minister has said, there is no shadow of a doubt this makes a difference. It saves lives and helps prevent injury.

Where I as a committee member had to stop and think about this was to reflect on the concerns raised by my colleagues from the smaller communities in the Northwest Territories, especially the off-road communities where pick-up trucks are very often the transportation mode of choice, and that we would really be, sort of by virtue of modernizing our legislation and making it even more common sense, we would in fact be imposing something on the people in those communities that was quite unfair and would make them law-breakers.

This was an area that concerned me. I think just about everybody in the North has had the occasion to be very grateful of a pick-up truck ride from a cold airstrip or a rainy shoreline to a community. These were aspects that were felt to be unavoidable, but a compromise through allowing municipalities, if it is their wish, to exempt themselves, is I think a very good one. It helps demonstrate, perhaps even in a relatively small way in this case, this Legislature does want to keep in mind the interests and the priorities that exist in the smaller communities. I think this was a good proposal to put forward and I compliment the Minister and the department for accommodating this.

I do have a question related to this, Mr. Chairman, and that is could the Minister outline for us just what steps would be taken to inform municipalities of the option that they have and how they would go about making an exemption that would suit their own communities? What kind of an information program will the department be putting together for municipalities? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

The Minister of Transportation, Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the Member for his comments supporting the bill. The department is planning to do consultation with the communities. I am going to ask my deputy, Mr. Vician, to expand on that statement.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Vician.

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Vician

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Department of Transportation, in bringing forward legislation, would provide both communities and the general public with broad information and specific information regarding the change in legislation, in this case, the removal of the exemptions and the restriction in riding in the back of a pick-up truck. This would be done with letters to each of the communities in the Northwest Territories explaining the option available with regard to bringing forward by-laws, and similarly to the general public through a media advertising and some pamphlets that would be issued broadly to the public. This would ensure that there would be broad communication as with previous amendments the department has brought forward through the Motor Vehicles Act. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Vician. General comments. If there are no further general comments, do you agree we go clause by clause?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Clause 1

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Clause 2.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Clause 3

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Clause 4.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Clause 5.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.