Page 6-7. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
With regard to capital allocations, we do receive funds on behalf of the federal government to carry out specific programs, especially when it comes to the non-insured health programs and with regard to the hospital care fund for Inuit and Indian people. Is there a particular accounting system?
Do we have to have separate accounting for those dollars that are being expended within that classification, so that we can see if they are being spent on the responsibilities we do have to carry out for those programs? In the budget, it works out to over $22 million. Is there a way to be able to get that information, so you could see exactly how that money has been spent? Do we have to account for it to the federal government?
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe we are considering this budget and there is nothing in this budget for the NIHB. Thank you.
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There is no budget item contained in these main estimates related to the non-insured health benefits. Thank you.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is the Minister saying that the money received for hospital care for Indians and Inuit, $16,943,000, is not part of the total amount of this, and the same thing applies for the medical care for Indians and Inuit for $4,755,000? That is not part of this budget?
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Mr. Krutko, the committee agreed not to go back and you are calling figures on page 6-36. We are now on page 6-7. Do you have comments to make on 6-7? Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Mr. Chairman, I am just trying to see how exactly these amounts fit into the overall operation expenses of $182 million. Presently, we carry out programs and services on behalf of the federal government and some of those dollars we get are earmarked for Indian and Inuit programs. Do we have to account for those programs separately or do we have to account that to the federal government when it comes to the overall operation expenses of this government?
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Mr. Chairman, the items that Mr. Krutko is referring to from page 6-36 are not NIHB. NIHB is a Health Canada program which we administer on behalf of the federal government. The two items that Mr. Krutko refers to are DIAND programs. It is a different arrangement in terms of recovery. Thank you.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Do we have to account for those programs to DIAND with regard to the amount of money we get to administer health care on behalf of those people?
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St. Germaine
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The revenues that the Member refers to are recovery of cost for hospital services and physician services. The hospital services and physician services are captured under all services programs and under primary and acute care. We bill back the federal government for the cost we incur related to providing for those two particular services to aboriginal people who are status Indian and Inuit and the amount is capped. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. St. Germaine. Page 6-7, Health and Social Services, department summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $182,811,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Under other expenses, it has dropped almost $11 million. Could I have an explanation on exactly where that expense is not being incurred?
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St. Germaine
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is a combination of factors. That is the decrease of the budget of $5.5 million related to non-insured health benefits that is removed from the budget. It is also a transfer from other expenses to grants and contributions of approximately $7 million for physician services. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. St. Germaine. Page 6-7, Health and Social Services, department summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $182,811,000.