Thank you, Mr. Minister. General comments? Mr. Lafferty.
Debates of Feb. 26th, 2001
This is page numbers 1231 - 1264 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was highway.
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister referred to industry as the key into putting funds towards the Ingraham Trail. The Minister and department know that at the end of Tibbett Lake where the winter road starts, the trucks go through there. It does not matter what shape they are in. It does not matter what it looks like. If the ice is cracked, they will go on it. The portages are bumpy and rough. They still go on it. I do not see the sense in realigning and putting a lot of money into the Ingraham Trail when it is already in good shape.
I just drove it yesterday, like I said, and not put any funds towards the Hay River Reserve road or Kakisa or even the winter road access...even the Rae access needs a lot of work on it. I know the money was put towards it, but as you said, you have to keep on maintaining what you have. I am sort of puzzled. If these guys can drive on the winter road that is rough already, why are we putting so much money into it when they are going to drive on it anyway? Thank you.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, one of the principles that we have been suggesting here for the toll is that those highways that produce the revenue would see the revenue reinstated in the highways. Obviously, it is going to be needed anyway because of the heavy traffic and the effect it has on the surface of the highways. So there is a need to reinstate the money where it comes from.
That is not to say that there is no need for funding for the road the Member mentioned, such as the approach to Rae or the Tulita winter road or the access road on the Hay River Reserve.
The fact of the matter is the traffic volume there does not compare to the traffic volume on Highway No. 4. That is what the problem is. We are trying to reinvest the money where the problems are. We have to take into consideration that there is a lot of traffic down Highway No. 4 related to the tourism for northern lights. That is where all the Japanese people go now to view northern lights, down that highway. That in turn brings a lot of revenue into the city. The city has been writing to the department about their concerns on that particular route. So we are trying to address all these people's concerns and their expressions to us. Most of them are related to safe travel on the highways.
Although the Member may have some point that there is community traffic in other sectors and they are not really being addressed, like I said to the Member for Deh Cho, this does loosen up pressure on our existing capital funding, so they may be in a better position to address these other concerns. Thank you.
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So what I gather is that because past governments put all this infrastructure on Highway No. 4, the government has to continue sucking all the territorial government funds and safety is not a concern. In Mr. McLeod's riding, safety is a concern on those roads. The only reason we are doing this is we have to accommodate industry, tourism -- which is all mostly Yellowknife anyway, the rest of the Territories hardly has any tourism at all -- and because the city is writing to them.
Mr. McLeod has spoken many times in the House about the safety of those roads, but you are going to put the money into the Ingraham Trail because the city is writing to you. Is that what I gather?
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, I did not get the Member's last comment. I could not make it out. Could he repeat himself please?
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What I said is you are putting money into the Ingraham Trail because the city is writing to you and because industry and tourism is on Highway No. 4 and safety does not seem to be a concern to you for the other access roads in the rest of the Territories. You are putting funds towards the whim of Yellowknife and industry. Thank you.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the department's major concern is safety and it does not matter on what highway. Safety is always the major concern. As far as the department's plans to invest in Highway No. 4, I indicated to the Members some of the reasons why we are doing this. It is for safety. It is to allow for traveling by the tourist outfits on that highway. It is for safety for the local people who live on that route. It is for the safety of people who go down that route and on into the mines or on into whatever they do from Tibbett Lake on. It is for safety that we plan to do some improvements on that highway. The department has identified that one section of highway as having one of the worst geometric conditions, which definitely needs improving.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Mr. Minister, the chair will recognize the clock and rise and report progress. We will continue with the discussion tomorrow. Thank you, Mr. Minister, and your witnesses.
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
The House will come back to order. Item 20, report of the committee of the whole. The honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Delorey.
Item 20: Report Of The Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of The Committee Of The Whole
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Paul Delorey Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 19, Appropriation Act, 2001-2002 and Committee Report 6-14(3) and would like to report progress. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.
Item 20: Report Of The Committee Of The Whole
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Delorey. Do we have a seconder for the motion? The Chair recognizes the honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Bell, as seconding the motion. To the motion. Question? Is the House prepared for question?
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Some Hon. Members
Question.
Item 20: Report Of The Committee Of The Whole
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
All those in favour? Thank you. All those opposed? The motion is carried. Item 21, third reading of bills. Item 22, orders of the day. Mr. Clerk.
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Speaker, a meeting of the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight at adjournment tonight and again at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, at 10:30 a.m. of the Full Caucus, and at 12:00 p.m. of the Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development.
Orders of the day for Tuesday, February 27, 2001:
- Prayer
- Ministers' Statements
- Members' Statements
- Returns to Oral Questions
- Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
- Oral Questions
- Written Questions
- Returns to Written Questions
- Replies to Opening Address
- Petitions
- Reports of Standing and Special Committees
- Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
- Tabling of Documents
- Notices of Motion
- Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills
- Motions
- First Reading of Bills
- Second Reading of Bills
- Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
- Report of Committee of the Whole
- Third Reading of Bills
- Orders of the Day
- Bill 20, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 2000-2001
- Bill 21, An Act to Amend the Labour Standards Act
- Bill 19, Appropriation Act, 2001-2002
- Committee Report 5-14(3), Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight Report on the 2001-2002 Main Estimates
- Committee Report 6-14(3), Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development Report on the 2001-2002 Main Estimates
- Committee Report 7-14(3), Standing Committee on Social Programs Report on the 2001-2002 Main Estimates
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Accordingly, the House stands adjourned until Tuesday, February 27, 2001 at 1:30 p.m.
-- ADJOURNMENT
The House adjourned at 6:00 p.m.