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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Page 11-35, revenues, recoveries and transfer payments. Total revenues, $3,038,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Going back to page 11-7. Department summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $75,546,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

We shall now go to capital. Page 20, resource management and economic development, total resource management and economic development, $1,288,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Total department, $1,298,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

That concludes the department. Thank you, Minister Handley and thank you to your staff.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

The next one on the list is the Department of the Executive. What is the wish of the committee? Does the Premier wish to make his opening comments?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do have opening remarks. The Department of Executive provides overall management and direction to government so that the government and its partners can achieve acceptable results. Core business activities include support to the Premier, Executive Council and to the Ministers' offices, as well as coordinating the Government of the Northwest Territories' relations with other governments and the public.

For the year 2001-2002, the Department of Executive is seeking approval of a forced growth increase of $342,000 to meet the requirements of the collective bargaining agreement that was ratified by the UNW in December and a critical investment of $330,000 to fund aboriginal government participation in the Intergovernmental Forum. These investments will allow the department to continue its efforts to promote strong and effective public governments that will operate cooperatively to ensure a strong future for all residents of the Northwest Territories. Many initiatives of the department are already producing results such as those which promote a stronger public service and the work of the Intergovernmental Forum.

The first investment of $342,000 results from this government's efforts to recognize the importance of the people who work for this government. The provisions of the agreement reached with the UNW have been extended to all excluded and management group employees as well. The total investment of 6.4 percent in salary dollars over two years is significant when compared to current inflationary trends.

A second investment of $330,000 is the funding we are providing to aboriginal governments in order that they may participate in the Intergovernmental Forum or IGF. This increased funding requirement was identified in the business plan that the standing committee reviewed last fall.

Mr. Chairman, Better Governance Through Partnerships is a key component of the 14th Assembly's vision, Towards a Better Tomorrow. The Intergovernmental Forum, which has been established by the parties as a forum for the discussion of important initiatives such as devolution and resource revenue sharing, will allow partnerships to be forged and is critical to achieving our agenda.

The success of the Intergovernmental Forum depends on aboriginal government participation. This is recognized not only through this investment proposed by the Department of Executive, but also through the federal government's agreement to also provide support to the IGF in the amount of $670,000 per year. In essence, for every dollar this government spends on supporting aboriginal government participation in the IGF, the federal government will spend two dollars. Given the parties' commitment to this partnership, the funding the department is seeking in support of this initiative will allow this government to make a fair and reasonable contribution to this important process.

On December 1, 2000, the Government of the Northwest Territories and a majority of aboriginal leaders from across the Northwest Territories agreed to begin a formal process to determine how the transfer of authority over lands and resources, currently held by the federal government, will devolve to appropriate territorial and aboriginal governments.

Mr. Chairman, other than these two important investments in our future, the Department of Executive is presenting a budget consistent with the business plan reviewed by this committee. We have held the line on other operational spending and have added no new positions to the department's staff complement.

I would now be happy to answer any questions that you may have on the department's 2001-2002 main estimates submission.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does the chair of the standing committee responsible for overseeing this department have any comments? Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Department Of The Executive - Executive Offices
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

The Department of Executive is composed of three separate and distinct programs under the authority of their own Ministers: the Executive offices, the Financial Management Board Secretariat and Aboriginal Affairs. Corporate services supports all three programs of the department by providing budgetary, financial and administrative services. The Financial Management Board Secretariat and the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs submit their own business plans and main estimates for committee review.

The Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development met to review the main estimates of the Executive offices, Department of Executive on January 16, 2001.

Business Plan And Main Estimates Review
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Business planning is crucial as a planning process and as a means to arrive at the budget figures presented in the main estimates. The only change in budgeting for the 2001/2002 fiscal year, since the business plan review, is an increase of $342,000 to meet the requirements of the collective bargaining agreement that was ratified by the UNW in December.

During the review of the 2001/2004 business plans, it came to the attention of the committee that the Executive offices planned to consolidate the Women's Advisory with the Office for the Status of Women in the 2002-2003 fiscal year. In its report, Review of the 2001/2004 Business Plans, the committee recommended this consolidation not occur and that the funds be reinstated in the 2002-2003 operations expenses for the department. The committee was pleased to learn that the department has decided not to proceed with the proposed consolidation.

Regional Reorganization
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March 1st, 2001

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

In the 2000-2003 business plans, reviewed by this committee in June 2000, the Executive offices presented their strategy to "support a collaborative approach to effective and efficient program delivery and capacity building." An outcome measure for this strategy would be "a plan for regional reorganization and capacity building is developed and initiated." The committee was informed that a review of regional organization is underway. Further to this, in those same 2000/2003 business plans, the Executive offices announced the formation of a regional relations section tasked with enhancing communications within the regions and between regions and headquarters. The new section will also assist the regions in preparation for the transfer of government programs and services through capacity building and aboriginal self-government.

It is apparent that the government has lost its focus and purpose on the Regional Reorganization Initiative announced last year. The committee was told this issue is much more complex than originally conceived and that the responsibility for regional reorganization has now shifted from the Department of Executive to a ministerial committee.

The standing committee is at a loss to define or make tangible suggestions on the state of this initiative, especially given the government's confusion in this matter. The committee urges government to reassess their need for regional reorganization and, if it still exists, redefine and review this initiative.

Devolution And Revenue Sharing
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

In his opening remarks to the committee, the Premier stated, " On December 1, 2000 the GNWT and a majority of aboriginal leaders across the Northwest Territories agreed to begin a formal bilateral negotiating process to determine how the transfer of authority, currently held by the federal government, over lands and resources will devolve to appropriate territorial and aboriginal governments and to develop a position of resource revenue sharing."

The committee is pleased with this development but worries that the government may hold itself in limbo awaiting finalization of negotiations. While the focus is on devolution at the territorial level, opportunities for development at the regional and community level may be lost.

The committee requests an up-to-date status report on devolution and revenue sharing negotiations.

Events/planning Chart
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

During the review of the 2001/2004 business plans in October, the committee requested that an events chart be developed to give members a perspective of what has to be done as the Northwest Territories moves towards devolution and revenue sharing. An events flow chart was circulated to members. However, the committee was surprised to hear that Cabinet has abandoned this chart as a planning tool and have not circulated it outside of Caucus. Departmental staff indicated that by suggesting target dates, aboriginal partners might feel that negotiations with the Government of the Northwest Territories are "precooked".

The committee is of the opinion that there are events that the government and other organizations have already agreed upon that could be put into a schedule. The committee is aware of legislation which is new or is under review that could easily be put in the events calendar. It is also well understood that our pursuit of devolution and resource revenue sharing requires a sequence of events to occur. It would be helpful for these events to be identified, not necessarily with a target date.

The committee hopes that Cabinet revisits its decision not to use an events chart as a planning tool. The committee empathizes with the difficulty in setting target dates when negotiations are involved. However, Members and the committees still would like to have targets and a sequence of events to assist them in their planning for the remaining term of this government.

That concludes the Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development's committee report on the Department of the Executive. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Does the Premier wish to bring in any witnesses?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

I would like to ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to escort the witnesses in.

Mr. Premier, can you introduce your witnesses for the record, please?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have on my left the secretary to Cabinet, the deputy minister of the Executive, Liz Snider. On my right Carl Bird, director of finance and administration.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. General comments, Executive.