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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, if the Members agree, I will just hear general comments and then respond to all of them.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. General comments? Are there any more general comments? Minister Handley, you can respond.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, thank you. I appreciate the comments from the Members, particularly the positive comments towards Mr. Voytilla's ability at predicting and also keeping us on the right path. I think he deserves a lot of credit for our success in managing many of our affairs, particularly financial. The department has been very busy. At the same time, I have to say that FMBS has also devolved a lot of responsibilities out to departments. So it has not been all a case of just pulling in more responsibility.

There are many things that FMBS is involved in and some of them may appear that they should be in Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development or they should be in another department, but many of the things we do in major new initiatives we are undertaking or reviewing are issues that have financial implications. I think it is critical that we have FMBS either leading it or at least participating in the exercise.

So in terms of Human Resource Development Strategy and so on, that has been an exercise led largely by FMBS. We will wait and see what FMBS' role is going to be on that one in the future.

With the amount of human resource activity and responsibility taken on by FMBS, that is again a feature of our government where we have done away with some departments like Personnel and we still need to have that central coordinating function. FMBS has played the role very well.

With that, Mr. Chairman, I would be happy to discuss any other issues in detail. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. General comments? Does the committee wish to go into detail?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Page 2-37, directorate, operations expense, total operations expense, $5,609,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the pages covering detail for the department, there is one area that is not covered or not highlighted and I would like to see if I could ask a question now about the Knowledge Management Strategy. This was an initiative announced last year and I, and I think most of my colleagues, had a chance to have an interview with the contractor who was working on it. At the time, I was quite impressed and remained optimistic that there may be some strategic initiatives coming out of this that would really help to streamline government not only internally but from the point of view of the people of the North, in effect the customers and clients of this department or this government.

It really seems to me to be a fairly forward-thinking move that will hopefully avoid, as the Minister said, some of the stovepipes and barriers that have been built into our bureaucracy over time and that we will make this government more responsive and more streamlined and more user-friendly, but I do not see it highlighted in the detail. I would like to ask the Minister for an update on where we are with the Knowledge Management Strategy and when we might expect to see some further progress here. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, we just received the first draft of the recommendations and anticipate having the project complete by the end of March, but I will let Mr. Voytilla give you a quick overview on the project.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Voytilla.

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Voytilla

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The project, as the Member pointed out, is quite broad in scope. It covers a lot of aspects of how we manage information and knowledge in the organization. The study, to date, has been very thorough and a lot of people have been interviewed and a lot of research has been done. The consultants have worked extensively with a steering committee of deputy ministers. I think they have, to date, done a pretty good analysis of what we need to do as a government to better manage our information, our information systems and move towards a comprehensive Knowledge Management Strategy.

From the initial work and conclusions that this study has demonstrated, we will not be leaping into a broad Knowledge Management Strategy immediately. We have got some initial prerequisites to get into place and they have given us a very good, we think, set of recommendations to consider We hope once the committee and the consultant finalize the recommendations in the next few weeks, we will have a product that we can then take to the Financial Management Board for initial review and then to the committees as well.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will look forward very much to seeing that paper and working through it.

One specific area of concern that has arisen across a number of departments is the records management area. I know this is specifically one that has been in the ballpark of the Department of Public Works and Services, but there is a quite an expectation that the Knowledge Management Strategy will cover some of the shortcomings that we have got in that area. I would just like to ask if we can anticipate the recommendations will cover this specific area, records management? Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Voytilla.

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Voytilla

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, we can confirm to the Member that the broad strategic approach on how records management integrates with knowledge management will be addressed in this strategy.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Directorate, operations expense, total operations expense, $5,609,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Page 2-39, directorate, grants and contributions, total contributions, $1,238,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Page 2-41, labour relations and compensation services, operations expense, total operations expense, $10,058,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Page 2-43, government accounting, operations expense, total operations expense, $8,783,000. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am not sure if this is the right place to get into it, but the Minister I am sure will tell me if it is a different page that we should discuss this item.

I wanted to talk about overall debt for the Government of the Northwest Territories. I know that there has been some discussion about trying to increase the debt limit that is set on us by the federal government in order to take a look at the option of highways, work being undertaken by way of tolls, and borrowing the money within being liquidated by those tolls.

I know that anytime you talk about increasing government debt, there are people who are concerned about it. I would just like to get a sense of what does the Minister see in terms of deficits for budgets in the next little while. Are we going to be able to balance our budget within the life of this Assembly, knowing the chances for royalty resources are, I would say, very slim in the next three years? What are we headed for in the next few years?