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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

The Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, with regard to the contribution from the GNWT RWED to NWT Arctic Tourism, the plan has been to provide, first of all, the revenues that were going to be raised through the hotel tax, estimated at $9,000,000. There was a management support contract for $100,000, and we have a service contract with them where they provide services on behalf of the department, particularly in the area of marketing, for $525,000. The contribution in total was to be $1,525 to Arctic Tourism for this year.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to seek clarification. The Minister said $1,525, does he mean $1,525,000? And he said "was to be". Can we get clarification on that? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

It was my mistake, I meant $1,525,000. We had anticipated having the hotel tax revenues beginning to flow as of July 1st and we were going to make adjustments as of March 1st, assuming that we would get money back through the proposed hotel tax. Without that stream of revenue, we have to look at the tourism business plan in total -- that is both the RWED piece and also the tourism association piece -- and figure out how we make this work with much-reduced funding. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In this area specifically, I am referring to the hotel room tax as much discussion has happened with NWT Arctic Tourism, the department and Members, and information has gone back and forth. There was a letter that was provided to NWTAT of $375,000.

I would like to get a commitment from the Minister at this time that that would remain there and that we would continue to work to try to find other sources of revenue, whether it be through go-wide initiatives of looking from within, or looking at possibilities of other revenue sources however they may come about. Hopefully, we will get that confirmation from the Minister.

I was speaking to the president of NWT Arctic Tourism, Mr. Lafferty, and he informed me that he has been in contact with yourself and the department regarding a number of situations and cases trying to secure other funding or ways of working together from within the department with the NWT Tourism Association. The area that came up was, right now within the department there are a couple of vacant positions, there are some changes occurring within the tourism sector of the department. I would like to know at this time if there is any opportunity for the department to work with the NWT Arctic Tourism Association to work along or second those positions to them, so that we can get a tighter working group. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, first of all, without having the hotel tax revenues, it does cause us to have to rethink everything we are doing here, figure out how we are going to do it. I cannot confirm how the $375,000, which was the government's contribution, will be allocated. We had made a commitment to increase our revenue one way or the other if we had hotel tax money. It is my intention to still try to put that $375,000 into tourism. We will do everything we can. We have steps underway, including, as I mentioned before, combining kits, trading investments, saving money there, and so on to be able to do that. We will continue on that track.

Where will that money go? Again, I cannot say today that it is going to go to the tourism association or be split between them and the department. I will have to look at the needs. We only have six positions in our whole tourism section in the department. They have to deal both with tourism development and needs as well as with parks. When you start breaking it down, and one is a director and one is a secretary, there are not many people to divide up.

Having said that, we have to look at our whole tourism support here. I want to have some time to think about it, figure out how we are going to do it. I have to take it back to Cabinet. I think without that other source of revenue, it means going back to the drawing board. We certainly cannot strip the department completely and turn it all over to the tourism association, unless it is a clear decision to set up a tourism authority independent of government and have very little responsibility there. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

We are under resource management and economic development, page 11-17. Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have a question on parks and tourism. With respect to the parks facilities, how are decisions made as to which areas get buildings, which areas have retrofits, which areas need new parking, more parking? How is it decided? Is there someone out there that goes and checks and rates these facilities, or do they wait until a building falls down or something?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, we do have people who do regular visits, in the summer in particular, of all the park facilities. Based on their assessment of needs in terms of the condition of buildings and facilities, as well as traffic patterns, where the tourists are going, then there are decisions made. It is part of the business planning process that we decide where we can put our limited resources. It is both where the tourists are going and the condition of the facilities.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If you have a facility that is not up to standard, you will not have the tourism and you will not have the numbers. But if you were to upgrade the facilities, then maybe the tourism will be there. From what I gather -- I am not sure how they decide where funds should go -- I wonder if the Ingraham Trail signs are an indication of what we will have across the Territories. Those nice beautiful ten-by-ten signs. Are those the new signs that are going up all along the highways in the Territories?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, yes, I hope that we can have those signs right through the Territories eventually. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you. I was just looking at the budget and notice an identification for funds for everything past Yellowknife, and I am trying to count on my one hand how many tourism facilities we have in my region and I still have five fingers when I look at one hand. There were none. Is the department ever going to look at the North Slave and start putting a little more tourism in there because they have even taken two campgrounds away and have one in there that is not even standard? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I would be happy to work with the Dogrib leadership on identifying areas for park development and working on plans as to how we can move forward from there. I agree with Mr. Lafferty, if you do not have parks you do not have tourists. I think getting the claims settled will certainly help us in being able to identify land where we can develop. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

I am glad the Minister agreed that we should look at some areas and I think this time we have in here, it needs to have a little bit of a change. Where it says "various" maybe they should just say "North Slave various." Maybe they should change the location name and then it will be a fair, equal distribution of funds. Looking at the budgets from the last few years, everything has been going north of Yellowknife. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.