I am not aware there was that plan, but I would have to check to be sure. It is news to me if that is the intent. Mr. Chairman, it is not intended that the programs would be setting up entities that would compete with private enterprise and undercut private enterprise. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know the support to victims of crime through victims services have been there for some time, and we know there is a need to increase support to victims of crime.

We have already undertaken to try new initiatives to try to alleviate and to provide those services as widely as we can in the North. We announce a new initiative like new forms in plain language. We have a part-time staff being hired to assist program review and implementations. We are working to try to establish funded programs in Hay River and Inuvik as well.

We know there is a need to provide those services on a wider basis than we have, so that is what we have done. We are hosting a major conference here at the end of this month on March 28th to 29th. There will be representatives of different victims services agencies from around where we have that program as part of the planned committee, to try to draw different organizations there that are very concerned about this area to come to this conference. It might be a starting point to see what the concerns are out there, and hopefully we will have some good recommendations and directions from that conference.

We did not talk of doing a review of that. Perhaps the conference will be attended by people who would be there to give us direction. If there was a need for review as a result of that, we will certainly consider it at that time. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we will know better where we stand as a result of the conference. Between now and the conference, we will do some planning on what the next step will be from there. This program, like the honourable Member for Thebacha has indicated, is similar to legal aid service in the way that it also needs money to run. We are aware of that.

We are anticipating very soon that victims of crime initiatives of Justice Canada will be making an announcement, perhaps in providing more funding to supplement our internal funding for our department's initiative in this area. So we are anticipating that Justice Canada will be making an announcement for additional funding for its particular initiative. So there are a number of things we are doing in this program.

We have not really talked of doing a review of identifying any time lines on this for when we would have more of a concrete plan of where we are going to go in this area, but in the meantime, we are doing a number of different things to try to alleviate some of the problems. This program is not available in all the areas in the North and we are going to have to address that. I am sure the conference will come out in developing a plan of action as we go. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the honourable Member's question is a good one. In the Department of Justice, we also handle corrections and the whole area of community justice is new. It is a new area in terms of the amount of years that it has been there. We are developing the concept as we go along. My own position on community justice is I am very supportive of it because it incorporates people in the community being involved for the minor cases.

Where it is working effectively, it involves dedicated people, community people and it has helped the community heal. Not too many cases come forward to the more established correctional system and court system. It helps in that way.

It is a new area and I would like to see more focus put on that area and to try to build that up. The people who have been working on it for the last few years, since it started, have contributed greatly to that program. We need to look at that and put more emphasis on it.

On the more structured institutions, I know there is a huge increase to that because of the young offenders' facility, we are compelled to do it. We cannot continue to use the Dene K'Onia Young Offenders Facility in Hay River for what we are using it for. We are given a certain period of time to move young offenders, young female offenders and young male offenders out of there. So there is a compelling reason to do it. We all agreed that the female young offender facility is going to be in Inuvik a long time ago. That will see an increase in staff and training and so forth. So there is a big bump in the cost in that.

In the male young offenders' facility, it was decided it would come here to Yellowknife. We also need to train additional people to run those two facilities. So by that, through the fire marshal's decision and the need to have better secure facilities for our young offenders, we have to go in that direction.

As for the jail, the correctional centre is in very bad shape. There was a decision some time ago to build a new one. We are following that course of action and that sees a huge increase in the capital cost, but the training in additional ongoing costs is mainly for the young offenders in terms of staff.

We need to do both. Perhaps the cost for the community corrections program is not as high as we would like it to be. It is something that is growing and we hope to put more emphasis and more thought into how it could work better. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I will have to get back to the honourable Member on that one. It could be one or two different programs, but I am not too sure. Thank you.

I could get back to the Member by tomorrow.