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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Yes, I do, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am pleased to have an opportunity today to speak with the Members of the committee about Bill 21, which proposes changes to various health statutes. The acts amended under this bill include the Guardianship and Trusteeship Act, the Certified Nursing Assistants Act, Hospital Insurance and Health and Social Services Administration Act, Medical Care Act, Public Health Act, Medical Profession Act, Dental Auxiliaries Act, Dental Mechanics Act, Dental Profession Act, and Vital Statistics Act.

The proposed amendments are mainly of a miscellaneous nature and are intended to simplify and clarify administrative procedures, or make the legislation consistent with that of other jurisdictions. The amendments also change the delegation of authority from the Commissioner to the Minister in provisions dealing with registration, licensure, and discipline procedures of health care professionals. Many of these amendments were identified over a period of years by department and authority staff, as well as by stakeholders. Further amendments of a miscellaneous nature were identified by the Department of Justice during the drafting phase of the bill. The amendments fulfill the commitments made to stakeholders and make the legislation consistent with other health profession legislation. In particular, amendments to change the name "certified nursing assistant" to "licensed practical nurses" fulfills a longstanding commitment by the department and brings us in line with other jurisdictions across Canada.

The change of authority from Commissioner to the Minister is also important and appropriate, as it is the Minister who is ultimately responsible for the delivery of health care services in the Northwest Territories.

I would like to thank the Members of the standing committee for their consideration of this bill and look forward to discussing Bill 21 with the members of the committee of the whole. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. At this time, I would like to ask the committee responsible for reviewing Bill 21 if they have any comments on the bill at this time. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Standing Committee on Social Programs met on Wednesday, August 28, 2002, to review Bill 21, the Health Statutes Amendment Act. This act amends a number of acts relating to health care and health professions. The majority of the amendments are minor in nature and correct legislation to match administrative practice or match legislation in other jurisdictions. The amendments also change the delegated authority from the Commissioner to the Minister for provisions dealing with the registration, licensing, and discipline of health care professionals to reflect actual practice and responsibility.

The amendments also change references to certified nursing assistant to the new term licensed practical nurse. This is consistent with other Canadian jurisdictions. Individual members of the committee may have questions or comments for the Minister as we proceed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Bell. At this time, I would like to ask the Minister if he would like to bring in any witnesses.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Yes, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Does the committee agree that the Minister can bring in his witnesses?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Sergeant-at-Arms, can you escort the witnesses in? Mr. Minister, could you introduce your witnesses at this time?

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have with me Dave Murray, the deputy minister for Health and Social Services; Mr. Blair Barber, the senior policy advisor for legislation for Health and Social Services; and Janis Cooper, legislative counsel, Department of Justice. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Welcome, witnesses. General comments on Bill 21? General comments? Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just had a chance to review the Minister's comments and the introduction in the beginning of the bill that indicates what amendments are being made with this bill. I have been communicating with the department about the need to make an amendment to the Marriage Act to increase the fees that the people who -- I do not know what the formal title is, but the people who actually issue licenses on behalf of the government. Right now, I believe they are getting a very low fee for it, about $25, which does not even pay for the cost of issuing it. I have received a commitment from the Minister that he will be reviewing it. I do not see it here. It is unfortunate that it is not here, but I guess that amendment just did not make it for the deadline.

I just wanted to take this opportunity to get the Minister to commit to do that again and to advise the officials there, who I know are the ones who actually do the work. Could I get the Minister to commit to that again and have their staff be aware of that amendment, and that I would like to see that come before the end of this Assembly? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Ms. Lee, I believe your comments are outside the scope of the bill that we are presently dealing with. It is nowhere to be found in here, so you are talking about something that is irrelevant to Bill 21. The Minister is aware of the issue, since I believe it is not privy to the Members of the committee of the whole. If you would like to add, but I would just like to remind the Members that we are dealing with Bill 21, An Act to Amend the Health Statutes Amendment Act. Mr. Minister, if you want to respond, you can do so.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we are aware of the concern raised by the Member. I have been advised that it would be appropriate to deal with this through the next Miscellaneous Statutes Act and it is on the list for consideration for that act when it should be brought forward. We are aware and have seriously considered the request of the Member. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I thank the Minister. I was not implying that he was not doing work. I just knew that it was the legal beavers who had to put the writings together. I appreciate the Minister's answer. Did I hear in that answer that it is in the works and it is on the books to be done by the end of this Assembly, prior to the end of this Assembly?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

I will just remind Members, we are dealing with Bill 21, Health Statutes Amendment Act. We are talking about...excuse me, could I have order in the House please? We are dealing with a whole different matter than the bill that is presently before the committee. If we can keep your questions directed to the bill that is in front of us. We are dealing with Bill 21, Health Statutes Amendment Act. General comments?

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Some Hon. Members

Detail.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Detail?

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Some Hon. Members

Clause-by-clause.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Clause-by-clause. If I could have the Members turn to schedule A, part 1, page 3. Schedule A, part 1, clause 1.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Clause 2.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Clause 3.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.