Mr. Chairman, if the Member wants verbally the information in each of the phases and the cost, then we can do that right now. If he wants the information on paper, then that is something that will take some hours to do. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in regard to the Minister's statement, he said the emergency was that they had to get the gravel and the materials laid down before the ground freezes. I believe the ground is frozen right now. I would like to ask the Minister, is the need for phase two and phase three needed at this time? Could we carry that over and allow for these dollars to be put in place through the capital planning process, so that everybody knows that there are these expenditures and we do not have to spend the $1.3 million? We have already spent over $400,000. Is that a requirement or can we allow the remaining expenditures to be carried through the capital planning process?

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Mr. Chairman, I do not think that would work. Let me tell you that first of all, phase one, as Mr. Steen said, is the survey, design, widening of the road and construction of the sub-base. That was $500,000, roughly. Then phase two and three is partly to haul the gravel and replace the gravel that MACA borrowed from Transportation. I think that is around something over $400,000.

And then the balance of it in phase three is the putting the top gravelling on the road and completing the road, as I understand it. So that takes up the balance of the money. Could we wait and do it some time after we approve the main estimates in April? It would be risky and probably impossible to do it. But I will ask Mr. Steen to add to what I have just said here, but those are basically the phases and the time constraints we are working under.

The others, you would not want to put a sub-base down and not put a topping on it as soon as you can. Otherwise, you are going to lose your road again. I will turn to Mr. Steen. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Steen.

Mr. Chairman, as I stated earlier, the hamlet was issued the full funding to allow them the option of tendering the work in one lump or in sections, and that way obtain a cheaper price. The gravel haul has to be done before the ice road goes out, so the hamlet really had to have the tender in place before the next budget, which would have been April 1st. The whole thing would have to be done in this fiscal year to allow them a winter haul.

They already had commitments to replace the gravel that they borrowed from Transportation. They had already made those commitments, so that was some of the funding that we gave them in that lump sum. There were to use that to see if they could get a better price for a cheaper gravel haul. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Krutko.

Mr. Chairman, I asked the Minister for correspondence on this. I am not too sure if we can get it in writing. If not, I suggest that we hold off on approval of this item until we get the documentation that I requested.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Mr. Chairman, I am not exactly sure what the Member wants in writing or what correspondence, but I will check Hansard and try to work it out. I do not have -- whatever correspondence it is, I do not have it here with me. I cannot give it to you right now. If you want to leave this line item and go on to the others, that is fine with me. It is as the committee wishes.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Krutko.

There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. We will have to take a short break and get the motion drafted so we can circulate it. The Chair will call a short break.

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I would like to call committee of the whole back to order. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, at this time I withdraw my motion, I did get the information from the Minister that I requested. I would have hoped to have received it earlier, but at this time I would like the information I received from the Minister to be circulated to the other Members.

The Member has withdrawn his motion. Can we have the information circulated to the Members? Does committee agree?

We are on page 11, Municipal and Community Affairs, continued operations expenditures, regional operations. Mr. Lafferty.

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Handley, you are referring the question to Mr. Steen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the road was just being brought back to standards. The hamlet, in their efforts to repair the damage to the road were pulling in the shoulders until the road was getting too narrow for two trucks, and that is why it had to be widened out again. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Lafferty.