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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I do not think this one is any different in this community than it would be in any other community. We are not talking about a road with potholes and so on. In this case we are talking about a road that was in danger of complete failure. It is the only road access to the sewage lagoon. It was an urgent matter that we do something with it now. To have the road completely fail and people be denied access to the sewage lagoon is certainly an impossible situation for us to find ourselves in. This is really in many ways the same kind of emergency we had I think about a year ago, I think it was with a supp then, on the water quality one where we had to put I forget exactly what the amount was, something over $2 million in as a supp to upgrade a water facility.

This use of special warrants and supps is essential in order to maintain that basic infrastructure in the communities. I do not think there was any particular preference given to this one. It is the same way we would deal with any community that has an essential road on the verge of collapse. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. The Chair recognizes Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the Minister about the expenditures of this fund. Is this fund going to be spent or is it already spent? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I did not get the question.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Mr. Lafferty, could you repeat your question please?

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you. I will ask my question again. How much of this fund, $1.3 million has been spent already? Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. For the record, Mr. Handley, you are referring the question to Mr. Steen. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the first phase of the funding was a little over $500,000.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was asking about this special warrant, not the first phase. From what I understand, the Minister was telling me that this money was for the second phase. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, the funding is for all three phases. The first phase of the construction is completed and that is reconstructing the base and widening the road. That is completed today. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, while the five hundred or so has already been spent directly on the road, most of the money has already been committed in that there is a commitment to replace the gravel that has been used from Transportation, so that is already a commitment that is made. Even though the money for hauling that gravel may not have been actually spent yet, there is a commitment already. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It seems like there is a merry-go-round or we are getting the run-around in this House here when it comes to asking for things and getting things. I will give a good example. Last year Mr. Steen was the Minister of Transportation when the community of Rae asked for gravel and they said that the gravel is for Transportation and not for municipality use. Another example is a bridge in Rae where there was $40,000 needed for a tooling base. Supplementary funding was not used because they said that there was no money.

Why is it that Minister's ridings are more preferred for all these special warrants and supplementaries? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, in this case, as I said before, there was basically an urgency and an impending emergency where people would not be able to get access to the sewage lagoon, a road that is required for municipal services. To not provide it in this case would have created that emergency. If the issues the Member is referring to were of the same nature, then we would treat them exactly the same way. I do not know the need for stockpiling gravel or the extra $40,000 on the bridge, or whether those could be classified in the same way. Were they going to stop some required service? I do not know. I can assure you that we treat all the communities with the same priority. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. I would caution Members in their line of questioning to guard against imputing motive. Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for that remark. We are just talking about facts and not motive. The last question I have for him is that another example is Highway No. 3 when I complained about the safety conditions, they lowered the speed limit. Could they not have lowered the speed limit on this road so they could continue traffic on it?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, the issue was not the speed the trucks were travelling. It is the fact that we had a lot of heavy trucks with chains travelling on that road, so I would guess they were likely travelling within the speed limits. Lowering it down I don't think would have made that much difference in this case. Now, as Mr. Steen pointed out, the hamlet has passed a by-law to require them to remove the chains so that they do not chew the roads up. I think this is not going to happen again here. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Lafferty.