Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Steen.
Debates of Oct. 23rd, 2002
This is page numbers 1107 - 1140 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the Minister, six feet added to what? What was the width of the road before? Thank you.
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, we are reaching beyond my capacity here, I did not go out and measure that road. I know from visuals that they are adding roughly a truck width on the side, roughly six feet. How much the road was pulled in originally, I do not know.
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you. The reason I ask these questions is there are certain standards for municipal roads, there is a certain standard for access roads and highways. I was just wondering, did they add a third lane to this road?
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the road was a standard, municipal two-lane road.
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you. I would like to ask the Minister, where did he get this standard municipality two-lane road when he could not tell me to the previous question that it was beyond his capacity? Thank you.
Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I have no idea what the measurements are for a standard two-lane road within a municipality versus a highway. I do not know what the Member is talking about. All I know is that they are bringing it back up to a standard two-lane road within the municipality.
Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will just change my line of questioning as it is obvious that I will not get any answers. The road damage occurred last year like the Minister said, at this time of the year. The Minister and the department and Cabinet had two sessions since then to bring this forward. Why did they bring it forward only now? Thank you.
Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, as I said earlier, the hamlet only realized how much damage was actually done to the road when the road started thawing out in the spring and early summer. It was at that point in time that the hamlet realized that the road was down to the matting because before that it was cover with snow.
After the snow melted, you could start seeing the matting in the road and at the same time it was decided that the best way to find out the cost of repairing the road is to bring in engineers to do the actual survey on the road to see whether it was going to be a cost to the hamlet to bring it back up. That was in June. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So the Minister is telling me that they knew the road was damaged but they could not tell how much damage. If it was damaged at this time of the year it would still be the same when it thawed out because it was damaged before freeze up. So why would it be any different than the previous winter or the previous fall when it broke up and froze all through the winter? It could not have gotten any more damaged than what was already there? How can he tell me it changed, because it was frozen after they noticed the damage. Thank you.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, the road was frozen. The surface of the road was frozen when the damage was done but it did not matter to the trucks with chains. They were digging in the ruts even though the road was frozen. Those ruts, over the winter, were filled with snow. They were not visible anymore until actually in the early summer when the road thawed out.
It was at that point in time that the hamlet realized that it would take more than just pulling in the shoulders to do repairs to that road. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 32-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (withdrawn)
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister is telling me that the road was full of snow and the community did not use any of their own O and M dollars to remove that snow, so they should have had enough money to repair that road. Thank you.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. I did not hear a question there, a comment. We are on page 11, Municipal and Community Affairs, continued operations expenditures, regional operations. Mr. Krutko.