Thank you, Mr. Krutko. We will have to take a break and get a motion drafted, and see if the motion is in order. The chair will call a break.
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Debates of Oct. 24th, 2002
This is page numbers 1141 - 1168 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.
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Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Paul Delorey
I will call the committee back to order. Mr. Krutko, the Chair will have to rule your motion out of order. The House does not have the authority to delete a special warrant or any portion thereof.
We are in Municipal and Community Affairs, operations expense, regional operations, special warrant, $1,467,000.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Just for clarification, do we have to deal with the total department with regard to ensuring that, since we discussed it, under special warrants, $1,651,000?
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. We were on page 13, and you had requested to go back to this one item on page 11. Are you requesting that we go back and totally redo the department? Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I assumed that, going through this department, you had to go through the whole department and, for the record, read in each of the amounts in order to move on.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Krutko, the committee has gone through the whole department, each item in the department and agreement was reached. The request was made to go back to one particular item. When we are done with that one, we will go back to where we had left off, unless it is the wish of the committee to go through the whole department again. Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in regards to the $1,651,000 of the special warrant, $1,300,000 of that was for this particular project. I think that it is important that you realize how much of the expenditure was in this particular area compared to the whole department. I think it is important, of how special warrants have been used by this department, and especially where those dollars have gone.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Mr. Krutko, we did have committee agreement on that whole department. Are you requesting that the committee go back to the whole department? Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Some Hon. Members
Nay.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
I am hearing nays. Could we have a show of hands for going back to the department? All those in favour? All those opposed? The vote is in favour to go on...(inaudible)...the whole department. The Chair will recognize the vote and go on to where we had left off. We are on page 13, Health and Social Services, operations expenditures, ministry and corporate services, special warrants, $151,000.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move a motion to go back to Municipal and Community Affairs, operations expense.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Mr. Krutko, the Chair has just dealt with that particular question to go back. It was defeated in the House, the vote. If you are looking at putting it into a formal motion, we would have to get a motion drafted. Is it your wish to introduce a motion, Mr. Krutko?
Mr. Krutko, the Chair is going to bring your attention to Rule 59. Your motion is defeated in committee of the whole and may only be introduced again by a formal motion at that same session.
So Mr. Krutko, there was a question put to the House, a vote on this issue going back, it was defeated. The Chair is going to go on and proceed to where we left off. Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the reason that I would like to go back to that department is to deal with the total department in regard to the use of the special warrant for $1,651,000. That is a different matter.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Mr. Krutko, that particular question that you have posed, as the Chair stated before, we have dealt with that total department and the committee was asked if they were willing to go back to that. The motion was defeated. The Chair is going to go on. Page 13, Ministry of Health and Social Services, operations expenditures, ministry of corporate services, special warrants, $151,000.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.