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Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
October 23rd, 2002
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
I MOVE that this committee defer further consideration in special warrant in the amount of $1,300,000 under regional operations, Municipal and Community Affairs, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 2002-2003, at this time.
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Krutko, the Chair will have to rule your motion out of order. That motion has already been introduced and defeated in this House. Under the rules, a motion cannot be reintroduced in the same session under the same item. We are on page 11, Municipal and Community Affairs, regional operations, special warrant, $1,467,000.
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the Minister of Finance, knowing the financial situation that we are in, do you see any expenditures expended in the area of upgrading roads in the communities, knowing that we, the small communities, will not have this opportunity knowing that we have over a $100 million deficit and this was a way to ensure a community can build their infrastructure without allowing the same process to be given to all the communities in the Northwest Territories?
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, in developing our budget, we will give roads in small communities full consideration. Thank you.
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask the Minister of Finance, do you think it is appropriate that Members have to go to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs to request similar funding, yet in his case, this is a major expenditure in his riding, in which he unilaterally brought this forth to Cabinet to get their approval? What kind of justification can you give me that this process is fair? As Ordinary Members, we find it awfully difficult to get any infrastructure in our communities, but yet in this case, it was a Minister who brought this forth who is responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs.
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, community roads are the responsibility of Municipal and Community Affairs. Any issues with regard to these roads would have to be brought to the department or the Minister. There is not any other alternative. Thank you.
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in regard to the cost of this road, can the Minister tell us exactly what is the cost per kilometre to construct similar roads of this distance in other communities?
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, road construction, re-construction costs vary hugely, depending on the condition of the existing road, the repairs that are necessary and so on. It is not unusual to have roads that require us to spend up to a million dollars a kilometre. In some cases, it can be done for considerably less. You cannot really compare one road to another one. Thank you.
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
I know I asked the question yesterday with regard to the Department of Transportation's involvement in this, and I asked the question of how much extra funds have been expended and exactly how much of those funds have been expended within the Department of Transportation. It is clear from the briefing document that there has been money expended for time with regard to accommodation, travel and whatnot. That tells me that the Department of Transportation has been involved in this project, and I would like to know exactly is that the practice of Transportation that they do get involved with community infrastructure? If so, why have a Department of Municipal and Community Affairs?
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, it is not unusual for the Department of Transportation to work cooperatively with another department within our government, particularly in an area where they have expertise that may not exist in that department. We do not want to duplicate the engineering expertise, for example, in Transportation in every department. That would be costly.
There was a budget of $28,000 for DOT travel and accommodation costs, and that is what that is meant to cover. I do not expect in these cases that DOT would ask that the salary and time for the individuals would be assigned to this project. We are all one government. Thank you.
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Handley. Municipal and Community Affairs, operations expense. Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 34-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Yes I do. I move that the committee considers deleting consideration of the special warrant in the amount of $800,000 under regional operations in Municipal and Community Affairs, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 2002-2003, at this time.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Mr. Krutko, did the chair hear right, your motion of $800,000 -- where is that figure? There is no $800,000 figure in here. Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 35-14(5): To Delete $800,000 From Special Warrant, Regional Operations, Maca In Bill 26, Ruled Out Of Order
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am moving a motion to delete $800,000 from the expenditure of $1.3 million from regional operations, Municipal and Community Affairs, with regard to the special supplementary appropriation.
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