Agreed.
Debates of Oct. 29th, 2002
This is page numbers 1231 - 1274 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.
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Committee Motion 58-14(5): Recommendation To Study The Implications Of Expanding Current Protections With Respect To Criminal Convictions In The Human Rights Act (carried)
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Some Hon. Members
Committee Motion 58-14(5): Recommendation To Study The Implications Of Expanding Current Protections With Respect To Criminal Convictions In The Human Rights Act (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 58-14(5): Recommendation To Study The Implications Of Expanding Current Protections With Respect To Criminal Convictions In The Human Rights Act (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 58-14(5): Recommendation To Study The Implications Of Expanding Current Protections With Respect To Criminal Convictions In The Human Rights Act (carried)
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Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a motion regarding clause 3.
I MOVE that clause 3 of Bill 22 be amended by deleting proposed paragraph 1.2(1)(d) and by substituting the following:
(d)An order is made under subsection 28(1) or the application is dismissed.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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The Chair David Krutko
I will just wait until we distribute the motion. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those against? The motion is carried. Clause 3, as amended?
Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The change under point 8(1), where a person has information that a child has been or may be in danger of abandonment, neglect, or physical, sexual or emotional ill-treatment, or has been, this is a significant broadening of what is in the current act. I was wondering if I could find out from the Minister, is emotion ill-treatment defined anywhere in the act?
Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
How then is this to be interpreted and why are we coming forward with legislation that leaves things so wide open? Another thing here is "may be." "May be" is an awful broad...how does one determine whether or not a child "may be" in danger of emotional ill-treatment? If a teacher sends home a spelling exercise and he thinks that half the parents might brow-beat their children into learning the spelling words overnight, is that teacher then responsible for reporting that the children "may be" in danger of emotional ill-treatment?
Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, that may be somewhat of an extreme example. I take the Member's point. We met with Ms. Peterson here over the break. The issue was raised. We are prepared to look at an amendment to this clause. I do not want to preclude the debate if the Member would like to expound further, but we are prepared to look at an amendment in terms of what is appropriate in terms of ill-treatment, in regard to emotional ill-treatment. I believe there was an understanding that we could have this clarified and stood down and dealt with tomorrow. Thank you.
Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Committee Motion 59-14(5): To Amend Clause 3 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wanted to make sure that everybody understood why I was making the motion to stand this clause down. I thought it was important to get some of that on the record. As the Minister has pointed out, yes, we had some discussion over the break about this. Unfortunately, we do not have the ability to do the, I understand, the French translation in drafting an amendment to the bill right now, so Mr. Chairman, because of that:
Committee Motion 60-14(5): To Defer Clause 7 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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Committee Motion 60-14(5): To Defer Clause 7 Of Bill 22 (carried)
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The Chair David Krutko
The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those against? The motion is carried. Clause 8.