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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Minister Antoine. It seems that we are going beyond a general nature in our general comments. So there are some areas that we have touched on that are in detail. I would like to ask the Members if they want to get into the specifics that they wait for detail. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Detail, corporate management, budget summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $15,126,000. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was not sure from the activity description because I was not on GED and did not have a chance to find this out earlier, but does the process of the revision of the Wildlife Act fall under this activity or under resource management and economic development?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you. That would fall under resource management.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Mr. Chairman, I will bring my questions up under that activity then, thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Activity summary, corporate management, budget summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $15,126,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Page 11-10, corporate management, grants and contributions, total contributions $1,906,000. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I was wondering if we can find out from the Minister why the Maximizing Northern Employment contribution is going down by $500,000.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It was a budget allocation, a budget exercise and what we are going to do here is if there is a request for funding through the year above and beyond the $500,000 I have agreement that I could bring it forward, hopefully from everybody here. I think that this is a very important initiative that we need to work with the aboriginal governments, private sector and this fund.

Last year the budget amount was used up, but this year through the budgeting exercise it was knocked down to half of the amount from last year. If the requests are substantial then I would like to bring it forward at that time. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would agree with the Minister that I think Maximizing Northern Employment initiative is an important one. I think it is one that we should be emphasizing. I must express my displeasure at seeing the amount dropped here.

What really leads to the concern is if you look at the total grants and contributions under this activity we have gone from $78 million in last year's main estimates to $1.9 million in this year's main estimates so there has been a huge increase in grants and contributions, but we are seeing a significant reduction in the amount between what was actually spent this year and what is proposed to be spent next year in this area. We are seeing a huge change in emphasis, we are putting a lot more money into new projects, it would appear, next year as compared to this year. I am having trouble understanding how that does not represent a shift in priorities.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the huge increase is because of all the oil and gas activity that has been happening all around us, the Mackenzie Valley development contributions, to try to get ready for oil and gas through the training program, through both the oil and gas and entrepreneurial as well as monitoring the biophysical and the social and economic initiatives. Those sorts of activities have really increased and that is the reason for it. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand that I said $78 million was in the main estimates last year. In fact it was only $78,000. So we had $78,000 in last year's main estimates. In the course of the year we approved $1.3 million in supplementaries, $1 million of that for Maximizing Northern Employment and $300,000 for the Mackenzie Valley development contributions. We are asked to approve a significant increase over that $1.3 million to $1.9 million and yet we are seeing a decrease in Maximizing Northern Employment.

The Minister just said that we need to get ready for oil and gas development. I agree with him 100 percent, but I think that we have to make sure that our residents in those areas who are going to be impacted by oil and gas development in particular are ready to take advantage of those opportunities. That is what I understood the Maximizing Northern Employment program to be. So why would we not keep the money in that program if that was the goal here?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman last year it was $78,000 that was approved in the main estimates. The Mackenzie River Basin Board had some money going to it and there was a Diavik monitoring agency. Together, that was $78,000. Over the year, we added dollars to it. We added approximately a million dollars to the Maximizing Northern Employment Strategy last year to bring the number up along with the Mackenzie Valley development contribution.

Together, the contribution there jumped up to an additional $1.3 million above the $78,000. This year, we are contributing additional dollars to the Diavik socio-economic agreement, along with Maximizing Northern Employment, as you can see in the information. The Mackenzie Valley development contribution as well jumped substantially this year.

So because of budget allocations, perhaps the Maximizing Northern Employment is cut by half. In the Maximizing Northern Employment, like I said, Mr. Chairman, if that figure looks low, we have talked about it. We think that we can manage with the budget allocations. Hopefully, that is substantial enough, but if not, then we are going to have to make some budget adjustments as we go along through the year.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am pleased to hear the Minister say he will look at budget adjustments. I had hoped that you would find areas within your department's budget to increase the funding to Maximizing Northern Employment. I would think this is an important area to make sure we have adequate funding in. I guess really the question comes down to one of priorities and have we picked the right priorities for where we are putting our money?

Not having been on the committee that reviewed the budget in detail, I guess I am right now questioning whether or not this was a good move. I am really hoping that, although I do not have the background that others might in this department, I am hoping that we will find some way to bring that money back and not through supplementary. I think we should first of all look within.

I would like to also say that we seem to have made a dramatic shift too, going from nothing in last year's main estimates to over a million dollars for Mackenzie Valley contributions. The description here says that it is related to the Non-Renewable Resources Development Strategy.

I had understood that the NRRDS strategy was a strategy that we had tabled with the federal government, demonstrating to them how there would be a significant payback for Canada if they were to invest in helping us be better prepared for development in the North. The fact that we have now started to pay for it, does that mean that we have given up on getting the federal monies? Have we basically lost and we are saying now that we are going to have to do it on our own?

If so, what sort of strategies are we funding on an ongoing basis, or putting new funding into with this $1million that we are looking at here? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Antoine.