This is page numbers 203 - 236 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We have not given up on the Non-Renewable Resource Development Strategy. I think it is a good strategy. We are going to continue to try to get federal money to contribute to the NRRDS program. There is a lobby effort going to Ottawa, as we all know, with industry and aboriginal groups next week. With Ministerial participation, hopefully we make an impact in Ottawa to move the NRRDS proposal forward.

In the meantime, the Non-Renewable Resource Development Strategy was looking at the requirements that we would need to get ourselves ready here in the North for resource development. That is going to happen in the next few years in terms of our infrastructure, in terms of our training needs and the business development.

While we are kind of advocating and trying to promote this NRRDS program and trying to get the feds to buy in and give us some dollars for it, and it is not going very quickly, so in the meantime, we still have to look at oil and gas training programs, look at socio-economic initiatives and monitor the biophysical initiatives for the different training that we need.

We have not given up on NRRDS, but at the same time, we have to put some money towards getting our people ready. We heard today from other MLAs who are urging us to do more. These additional dollars into the Mackenzie Valley Development Contributions would be the contributions that would be required to help out the communities that want to get themselves ready for resource development. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Corporate management, grants and contributions, total contributions, $1,906,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Environmental protection services, operations expense, total operations expense, $2,165,000. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under environmental protection services, looking at the graph supplied by the department earlier on in the document, shows by activity expenditure, environmental protection, 2.59 percent. Looking at that, and in light of the Premier's address to the people of the Northwest Territories made on January 11th, 2002, where he talks about, "We will continue to work to expand community and regional capacity, to manage and monitor the environment," I would like to know from the Minister, in this sector, what is being done to improve this section when it comes to environmental monitoring and protection? Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we have been looking very seriously in this area in the environmental protection services. It is a key focus for us in the Northwest Territories. In the area where we have the responsibilities, it is kind of limited, but in the meantime, our people in the North are telling us we have to be very vigilant with the water, the land and the air quality. We have been told to also take into consideration the wildlife that is there.

That is what we are doing. We are looking at the environment, the wildlife area. We are doing some work towards climate change. We hope to have a workshop by elders this year to talk about climate change. At the same time, we have air monitoring stations now, one in Fort Liard. We plan to put one in Norman Wells, as well as in Inuvik, because of the increase in oil and gas activity that is going on. We want to keep an eye on the air quality. We have an interim resource management assistance program that we have put into place.

In the environmental protection area, we are looking at baseline and cumulative effects monitoring. We have put regional environmental protection officers in a couple of places through the North. So we have done a number of initiatives to try to put some emphasis in that area. There is a renewed interest in our environment over the last year and we as a department are looking at putting together some initiatives that have been out there, that have been suggested to us. Hopefully, in the near future, we will come forward with some other initiatives that are out there. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just further in this area, it is good to hear there is some activity going on to try to improve some of the areas of environmental monitoring. Let me give an example. Right now, in the Beaufort Delta, for example, through the Inuvialuit environmental, or lands administration, they have a land monitoring and wildlife monitoring situation where they have hired people to check on the impacts that are happening in the Delta as a result of the seismic work and the activity that is happening there.

That is something that has been worked out between the land claims group and the companies involved. They have worked it out and monitoring is occurring, actual monitoring on projects. What is occurring in areas where they do not have that in place? Who is out to monitor these sites to ensure spillages are not occurring or damage to the land itself, or to habitat is not occurring, or if it is occurring, being reported? That way, it can be rectified when clean up starts to occur.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as I mentioned earlier on to other MLAs, our responsibility as the Government of the Northwest Territories, in terms of being out on the land there is mainly through the forest management responsibilities that we have. It is limited to that. The federal government is responsible for the Crown lands and the other jurisdictions that are out there. We are aware of what is going on. We also helped different communities monitor the area. We have helped financially in the Aklavik area, in doing some monitoring of the activity that is going on in there area.

Who is out there? The federal government is out there. They have Fisheries and Oceans, who are very vigilant, as well as the Northern Affairs officers. I understand they are beefing up their office up in Inuvik to provide that service. We are aware of that and we try to keep close contact with them. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister touched on working along with him. How does that occur at this point, working along with the federal officials who are on the ground in the communities and regions, to try to ensure that the monitoring is occurring and reporting is happening when things do happen? Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The department has regular contacts with them. They work closely together. They work together in areas like the oil spill alliance. There are different working arrangements that they have worked out between our department and the federal agencies. So it is built on understanding and working together.

We as a government here, we have a good working relationship with the director general of Indian and Northern Affairs here, so whenever there is a problem, then we raise it with them. There are frequent meetings with the director general and that ensures that we have a good working relationship with DIAND. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again, in this area, my question is in line with just ensuring that we have adequate resources on the ground to ensure the environmental side of the equation is being monitored and protected. Not to say that we need to go out and find a whole bunch of new regulations or establish new policies that would make things even more convoluted. One of the concerns is that there are many bodies out there doing their own work in different areas. Sometimes it is a matter of working together and having some, if it is, people on staff to ensure that the reporting and the contact is happening on a very regular basis and to ensure that those contacts are being utilized, that is one thing. If we find ourselves short-staffed in other regulatory bodies out there and squeeze by all the activity that is happening in the Northwest Territories now, that puts other issues on the back burner and it takes time to get the processes moving. I think that is one area as well that we need to keep apprised of. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think that is good advice. I think we need to be vigilant and as these sort of activities are around us, we want to make sure that we protect our environment and want to make sure that we have a good working relationship with those who are responsible for monitoring and keeping an eye, make sure that our environment does not get damaged by the development that is going on around us. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wanted to just mention a couple of things under environmental protection services. I am not clear right now on who is doing the environmental monitoring when it comes to oil and gas projects in the North. Could the Minister please answer that?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

The responsibility is mainly with DIAND. Through the permitting processes, there are land use permits and water licenses that they have to acquire to do exploration. In those, there are provisions for environmental monitoring. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I know in the case of Cameron Hills, several people have been hired as environmental monitors. From what the Minister is stating, I guess they are working for the federal government. Is that what his understanding is?