This is page numbers 301 - 340 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you. These five projects all met with the three criteria that we have been talking about. They were either in public housing or on the public housing wait and they also met the minimum income threshold. The gap I am talking about, and hoping we can address, is the one that relates to two-bedroom households. Are there other sizes of households, say four-bedroom or one-bedroom, that do not have this gap problem in Yellowknife? Is it only the two-bedroom where we have a problem with this gap between the threshold and the public housing cutoff point? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Beaulieu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. From what I understand, the EDAP policies are developed and we are using average of a three-bedroom unit to develop the policy. It is likely that in the current policy, that there will be a larger gap between the one-bedroom public housing client, than the gap the Member referred to in the two-bedroom. At this time, I believe in the three, four and five, there is no existing gap.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you. I suppose it is likely that these five projects where allotted to folks in the larger-sized homes where a gap would not exist, and it is only the smaller-sized two- and one-bedroom homes where there is a gap that we have to address. Is that correct?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Beaulieu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is correct.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

I would like to thank the president for that clarification. That certainly was helpful in allowing me to understand how this works. I would like to further support the Minister in working toward addressing this gap as it exists for the smaller-size homes. I thank him for his attention to this matter.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell. General comments? Detail? Page 8-9, activity summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $48,981,000. Mr. Bell.

Committee Motion 5-14(5): Biannual Statistics On Rent Supplement Units And Developers Loan Guarantees (carried)
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March 4th, 2002

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Mr. Chairman, I have a committee motion. Mr. Chairman,

I MOVE that this committee recommend that the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation provide the committee with biannual statistics on the number and cost of all rent supplement units in the Northwest Territories and a listing of all loan guarantees and amounts made to developers by the NWT Housing Corporation.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell. We will just wait for the motion to be distributed. The motion is circulated. The motion is in order. To the motion. Minister Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For the record, am I required to remove myself from this vote?

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The Chair Paul Delorey

No, there is no requirement for you to leave, Mr. Allen. We have a motion on the floor. To the motion. Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Chairman, I do not understand the motion. The motion is that the NWT Housing Corporation provide the committee with biannual statistics on the number of and cost of all rent supplement units in the Northwest Territories. When does biannual start, two years from now? When would we have the initial information on this?

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The Chair Paul Delorey

The motion is on the floor. The motion is in order. If the mover of the motion wants to provide some clarification, he can, or speak to the motion. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. We will go on to page 8-9, activity summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $48,981,000. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Regarding the Housing Corporation programs and related services, the government has a program called on the land housing, or something to that effect. Do you have a breakdown of it? It is not mentioned here, so I am just wondering if that is one of the responsibilities of this government to deliver such a program? If so, where are you delivering that program?

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is a new initiative under our home-ownership program. It was introduced when several elders wanted to move out of public housing and have their own units. It is a program that is developed outside of the municipal boundary.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I think that initiative should be enhanced and more people should be made aware of it. I think a lot of people do not want to or do not really like living in municipalities or larger centres, when they feel more comfortable on the land, either hunters, trappers or fishermen who just want to be away from the communities and out of the communities. I would just like to ask the Minister, is there any way of expanding that program to increase the amount of resources you have in that program, so it is more accessible to hunters, trappers or even fishermen, so that they can use such a program? If they do not have a housing unit within a municipality or a community, this can offer them an alternative. If there is no room in social housing, this could assist in the overcrowding and the lack of social housing in a lot of our small communities.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Certainly we support that specific program. Last year, we had ten applicants supported through our funding. It was very well-received and we agree, it can be done through either a universal partnership agreement or a project authority agreement. Certainly we will continue to provide public information on that program. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Regarding the activity description, it talks about the delivery of rental programs in the 26 communities in the Northwest Territories. Knowing there are some 30-odd communities, why do you only talk about the 26 communities and not all 30 communities in the Northwest Territories?