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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is there a figure? When you are talking about the latter part of the year in those contracts, how much out are they? Are they within the guidelines, or are we finding they are surpassing targets that are set when you talk about plus or minus 10 percent and so on? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

The deputy minister, Mr. Rattray.

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Rattray

Mr. Chairman, the two I am thinking of right now are quite significant overages. It may be not simply the 10 percent that relates to the increase in the labour costs and material costs, but they also perhaps relate to a decrease in the amount of competition, or the fact that the contractors are that much busier and they are bidding even higher because they have a lot of work on the go right now. Some of those bids are in fact 30 to 50 percent over. Again, that is not the general rule. I just happen to know of two in particular that came in within that range.

environmental Audits
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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is there work going on then with the sponsoring departments? In that sense, if a project is that high above what was initially estimated, there has to be a question of whether it would even proceed at that time, or sponsoring departments having to come up with the extra funding.

environmental Audits
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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Rattray.

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Rattray

Mr. Chairman, in the two instances I am thinking of, there are discussions going on right now with the clients to determine whether or not there are aspects of the project that can be deleted in order to reduce the costs. At the same time, the clients are exploring options for providing some additional funding for them. It is expected that both of those projects will go ahead, but it will be a somewhat reduced scope and some additional funding will be required.

environmental Audits
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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

environmental Audits
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the area of inspections, are you finding with the increased activity that you manage to keep up with the inspection services that are required?

environmental Audits
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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Rattray.

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Rattray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, thus far we have been able to keep up with the inspection services. We do not have any significant backlog on that at the present time.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Page 5-11, asset management, operations expense, total operations expense, $32,645,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair David Krutko

Page 5-12, asset management, grants and contributions, grants, total grants, $260,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair David Krutko

Page 5-15, systems and communications, operations expense, total operations expense, Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the area of systems and communications, I would like to know what the department is doing in this area. I know there is some ongoing work at this time to do some changes to the systems and communications, which I believe the Department of Public Works is involved in to try and update equipment. What is being done in the future years, looking at this budget, to improve on that system?

I am aware right now, for example, there are firewalls being constructed, so on and so forth, but I believe there are glitches in that system. Hopefully, they are going to have that fixed. In this computer day and age, it is pretty difficult to maintain contact if you lose your e-mail systems, for example. I would like to know if we are in fact seeing a problem in this area, or is it just ongoing work? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Rattray.

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Rattray

Mr. Chairman, there is a significant amount of work going on in the systems and communications side of business. The Knowledge Management Strategy is guiding the work. Some of the work will be improvements to the existing system. Some of it will be consolidating, so that we are not dealing with as many different types of systems. Some of those initiatives will significantly improve the efficiency of the way the systems operate.

The firewall project the Member mentioned is an exceedingly important part of the improvements to the systems at the present time. The firewalls are intended to protect the integrity of all of the systems and all of the communication networks that the government currently has in place. It is doing it by essentially constructing a wall around those systems and only allowing certain types of entry. There is much more controlled entry than there has been in the past.

That system was implemented a couple weeks ago now, and with anything as complex as this, there are always some difficulties and some things that were not foreseen in the original plan. We are currently working through those.

Most of those issues that have been raised with us are relatively easily dealt with. We are down to a very small number of problems that we are still trying to deal with. Many of the concerns that have been raised appear to be related to personal preference in terms of how the system is used, rather than a significant functional problem with the system.

We are confident that over the next few weeks, those bugs will be worked out and we will have a much more secure system in place to protect all of the government's communication and computer systems.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the area of these protections on government systems, is it then that you can only communicate government to government shop sort of thing, using LAN lines and WAN, or whatever the terminology was. Wide area network was another one, but it was strictly government to government.

For example, if you are in Inuvik, to be available for the system, you had to be within a government department, government building, infrastructure. If you fell outside of that, then you could not hook up to the system unless you were willing to pay a very high price.

Is that what this is doing in the system? When you say protecting the government's systems, then those communications that would be able to flow back and forth would be strictly government communications?

environmental Audits
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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

The deputy minister, Mr. Rattray.

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Rattray

Mr. Chairman, there are legitimate reasons for others than government to connect with the government systems. It is what is termed virtual private network connections that can be made. It is essentially a license and a specific route to get into the government systems. We have issued approximately 40 of those at the present time.

Again, because we have good control over the systems, this allows us to understand who is using the system, what they are using it for and make sure they are secure when they are accessing the systems.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Page 5-15, systems and communications, operations expense, total operations expense, $847,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.