Agreed.
Debates of March 7th, 2002
This is page numbers 427 - 478 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.
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Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 465
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
March 7th, 2002
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Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 465
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 465
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 465
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 465
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 465
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 465
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 13-14(5): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 7 By Substituting New Wording For Proposed Subsections 6(5) And (6) (defeated)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman,
I MOVE that clause 33 of Bill 7 be amended by adding the following after proposed subsection 5.3:
5.3.1. The Speaker shall, as soon as possible after the end of each fiscal year, lay before the Legislative Assembly copies of the elections filed by Members under subsections 5.2(2) and 5.3(2).
The purpose of this amendment, Mr. Chairman, is keeping with our belief in an open and transparent government. I think the public have a right to know who is taking part in this supplementary plan. Thank you.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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The Chair Paul Delorey
The motion is being circulated. The motion has been circulated. There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion. Ms. Lee.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think that those Members, the public out there know that this has been discussed without the public knowing, without the question or the notion of transparency and accountability. I am going to vote against this motion in keeping with my stance on this bill on principle.
I agree. I feel the same, and I have said so publicly, that the purpose of this is...I am not imputing any motives here, but I feel that given the consideration and the debate surrounding this, that this is really a way of making...I do not know. I am not going to say threat. I think another Member used that, but it is really...I do not even know how to explain it. I think this is a distraction. I think it is a side issue. I think the decision and the position to take is whether you support this motion to create a new pension or not. What happens afterwards is really a private matter.
I do appreciate that Members' salaries and benefits, for the most part, is public information and I respect that. I think there is more to this. I do not condone that in any way. My vote will be no on the basis of my general position about this supplementary pension. Thank you.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I take a contrary point of view. I have no doubt that...I should not say that I have no doubt. If Ms. Lee is right, that this was a pressure tactic, I have no doubt that I am one of the people it is aimed at. However, I also agree that everything this government does, as far as possible, should be open to the public. I think that our compensation package should be entirely open to the public.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Therefore, I will support this motion. If the bill is going to pass, then the public has the right to know who has bought into the pension plan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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