Debates of June 18th, 2002

This is page numbers 833 - 910 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
National Aboriginal Day
New Mandate/secretariat For Youth Minister
Fire Core Training Certification Ceremony
National Aboriginal Day
Preferential Treatment For Yellowknife
Inuvik Petroleum Show 2002
National Aboriginal Day
Knowledge Management Strategy Recommendations
Achievement Levels Of High School Graduates
Programs For Housing Maintenance And Repairs
Business Incentive Policy Limerick
Effect Of Class Sizes On Learning
Mining Week 2002
Yellowknife High School Graduation Ceremonies
National Aboriginal Day
Thomas Simpson High School Graduation Ceremonies
Passing Of Noah Selamio
National Aboriginal Day
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
GNWT Knowledge Management Strategy
Drug And Alcohol Treatment Programs
Student Hiring At Hay River Hospital
Status Of Aboriginal Language Specialists
Dogrib Self-government And Land Claim Negotiations
Review Of Financial Administration Manual Directive
Maintenance Costs Incurred By NWT Housing Corporation Clients
Competition Bureau Ruling On Canadian Diamonds
Staff Shortage At Stanton Hospital
Conditions On Health Board Funding
Relief For Evicted Social Housing Clients
Impact Of Dust On Population Health
Increase Under The Fur Pricing Program
Mackenzie Valley Oil And Gas Pipeline
Addressing Critical Housing Needs
Water Service In Fort Mcpherson
Stockpiling Of Crushed Gravel
Impacts Of Resource Development
Municipal Taxation And Treaty Rights
Poor Condition Of The Fort Mcpherson Water Source Access Road
Municipal Taxation And Treaty Rights
Fire Core Training Certification
Municipal Taxation And Treaty Rights
Fort Mcpherson Fire Truck
Written Question 4-14(5): Initialling Of The Final Dogrib Claim
Written Question 5-14(5): Financial Assistance For Students With Disabilities
Written Question 6-14(5): Aurora College Nursing Program
Petition 2-14(5): Funding For Educating Bodies
Committee Report 9-14(5): Progress Report On The Review Of The Official Languages Act
Tabled Document 48-14(5): Package Of Letters Regarding The Detrimental Effects Of Classroom Overcrowding
Extended Adjournment Of The House To October 16, 2002
Extended Adjournment Of The House To October 16, 2002 (carried)
Bill 17: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 1, 2002-2003
Bill 17: Supplementary Appropriations Act, No. 1, 2002-2003
Bill 18: Forgiveness Of Debts Act, 2002-2003
Bill 19: Write-off Of Debts Act, 2002-2003
Bill 21: Health Statutes Amendment Act
Schedule A -- Amendments To Certified Nursing Assistants Act
Schedule B -- Amendments To The Dental Auxiliaries Act
Schedule C -- Amendments To Dental Mechanics Act
Schedule D -- Amendments To Dental Profession Act
Schedule E -- Amendments To Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
Schedule F -- Amendments To Hospital Insurance And Health And Social Services Administration Act
Schedule G -- Amendments To Medical Care Act
Schedule H -- Amendments To Medical Health Profession Act
Schedule I -- Amendments To Optometry Act
Schedule J -- Amendments To Pharmacy Act
Schedule K -- Amendments To Public Health Act
Schedule L -- Amendments To Veterinary Profession Act
Schedule M -- Amendments To Vital Statistics Act
Bill 22: An Act To Amend The Child And Family Services Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
To Repeal Subsection 2(3) Of The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act (carried)
To Enact Electoral Districts Boundaries Commission Legislation (carried)
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

We will go to page 9, Municipal and Community Affairs, operations expenditures, emergency services, not previously authorized, $155,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Land administration, not previously authorized, $300,000. Mr. Nitah.

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the $300,000 identified in land administration, what is the exact intent of that money? Is that to resolve the issues of disputed ownership of land, taxation based on the disputed ownership of land, et cetera? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the purpose of the $300,000 is to make a contribution, or be available as contribution money, to non-tax-based communities for land development. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Nitah.

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would those new subdivisions be taxed before land claims are settled and ownership of those said lands to be developed are to be determined?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, it depends what housing is built on it, but quite likely it could be taxed. Then we can afford to hire teachers and nurses and so on. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Nitah.

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me rephrase the question then. Who will own those lands? If it is a non-tax-based community, it could be a community that is a band only. Who owns the lands? The question about taxation is still up in the air, Mr. Chairman.

I know we have problems with communities. I have constituents, brothers who are living side-by-side in the houses in the community they have lived in all their lives. One pays taxes and the other does not. Those are confusing situations. We need to resolve those. This may not be related but it is an opportunity for me to make a political statement on this issue once again. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, it is hard to determine in advance who would own it. The land could be built on band land and leased. It could be owned by a development corporation and the houses built on it rented. It could be sold as fee simple lots to individuals who want to buy a house and a lot. It is impossible right now to tell who would own it. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, I just need clarification. Until now, it was my understanding that subdivisions in non-tax-based communities were requested through the capital planning process. They were approved through the capital planning system that we have in place. I am wondering how this appropriation for $300,000 fits in. Is this to add money to that pot? Has the system changed? I am not sure what is happening here. I would like the Minister to explain it to me.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, this is just additional money to get on with lot development, subdivision development in non-tax-based communities. There is no change necessary for the current practices. It is simply another $300,000 to deal with the issues that have been raised with us about the need for lot development in small communities.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Municipal and Community Affairs, operations expenditures, land administration, not previously authorized, $300,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Regional operations, special warrants, $205,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Not previously authorized, $492,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 9, regional operations, not previously authorized, $492,000.