Debates of Oct. 10th, 2003
This is page numbers 1397 - 1454 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was tlicho.
Topics
- Members Present
- Item 1: Prayer
- Minister's Statement 111-14(6): Department Of Executive
- Minister's Statement 112-14(6): Tourism Marketing Campaign
- Minister's Statement 113-14(6): Departmental Achievements
- Minister's Statement 114-14(6): Rwed Achievements
- resources
- wildlife
- environment
- economic Development
- conclusion
- Minister's Statement 115-141(6): Departmental Successes
- early Childhood
- kindergarten To Grade 12
- adult And Post-secondary Education
- training And Employment
- income Support
- culture, Heritage And Language
- Development Of The NWT Tourism Industry
- Reflections On The 14th Legislative Assembly
- Acknowledgment Of Mackenzie Delta Constituents
- Honouring Commitments To The North Slave Region
- Recognition Of Youth, Family And Constituency Assistant
- Passing Of Elders In Tu Nedhe
- Fairness To Income Support Recipients
- Appreciation For Colleagues, Constituency Assistant And Family
- Education And Training For Northerners
- Significance Of The NWT Tourism Industry
- Appreciation For Colleagues, Staff And Family
- GNWT Daycare Subsidy Program
- Appreciation For Colleagues, Staff, Constituents And Family
- Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
- Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
- Question 424-14(6): Proposal For Tl'oondih Healing Program
- Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
- Question 426-14(6): Aurora College Academic Appeal Process For Students
- Question 427-14(6): Impacts Of Auditory Ailments In Young People
- Question 428-14(6): Subsidy Payments To Daycare Operators
- Question 429-14(6): Increase Funding For Tourism Marketing Initiatives
- Question 430-14(6): Amendments To The Wildlife Act
- Question 431-14(6): Invitation To Attend Grey Cup Festivities
- Question 432-14(6): Gwich'in Wildlife Harvesting Rights
- Item 9: Replies To Opening Address
- Tabled Document 106-14(6): Letter From President Of Kapami Cooperative Regarding Power Rates In Colville Lake
- Motion 21-14(6): Censure Of The Minister Of Health And Social Services, Defeated
- Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
- Bill 34: Tlicho Land Claims And Self-government Agreement Act
- Committee Motion 144-14(6): To Amend Clause 13 Of Bill 34, Carried
- Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
- Bill 34: Tlicho Land Claims And Self-government Agreement Act
Return To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The IBAs we have looked at extensively and they have many implications that we have not yet worked out. There are implications legally as to how IBAs are treated by other agencies. Even the federal government has not been able to develop a position on impact benefit agreements. It affects our whole policy area of the principles of income support, Mr. Speaker. So, Mr. Speaker, that's still an area that a lot more work needs to be done on.
Return To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
October 10th, 2003
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister as he is now aware, a colleague of mine put in his statement that Alberta does not claw back. If Alberta is not clawing back, Newfoundland is not clawing back, why is this Minister and his department so set on clawing this money back from the people that need it the most, the people on income support? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.
Further Return To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I say, I go back to the principles in the program, Mr. Speaker. That's a program that meets the basic needs of individuals, but the program is intended to let individuals help themselves. We've also introduced for many years and applied the productive choice component. Really it comes into question of how far we can go providing support for people from public money and then not take into account other monies received, Mr. Speaker, especially in cases where we haven't completely outlined and know the parameters of an IBA. I personally don't know what the content of an IBA agreement is, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister is right in saying there are programs out there to help these people, but the impact benefit agreement is based on the land claims agreement and this is compensation for the loss of the use of the land. If this is something that they are entitled to, why is he clawing it back when others in Canada aren't? Why is he wishing to be so different? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.
Further Return To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know I hear reference to other parts of Canada, but other parts of Canada don't recognize treaty payments either, Mr. Speaker. It depends on the jurisdiction you go to. So what I am saying with this, Mr. Speaker, is we need more work done on this. For us to step in and say we'll do this, I am looking at a total policy change here, Mr. Speaker. That's the role of all of us here, not just me, Mr. Speaker. We have to take into account the legal basis for IBAs. As I say, not even the federal government has defined the IBA situation of how to treat that, tax-wise, et cetera. So there are complications, Mr. Speaker, in many ways. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. About a year-and-a-half ago, the Minister stood up in the House and said he had a legal opinion on this. Now he is saying they are not sure what the legal issues will be around them. The legal opinion he had was publicly funded. Why is he withholding the legal opinion from the public? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Mr. Speaker, I think that's the primary question being asked. The legal opinion is always for Ministers' eyes only and it's such stated on legal opinions. We've been through this debate before, Mr. Speaker, but it really doesn't provide a definite answer either.
Further Return To Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 425-14(6): Clawback Of Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.
Question 426-14(6): Aurora College Academic Appeal Process For Students
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Bill Braden Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question this morning is for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. It concerns the establishment of an appeal mechanism, Mr. Speaker, whereby students can get decisions made when they run into complications with processes at the academic and training processes at the school. So my question is would the Minister establish at Aurora College an independent appeal board separate from the college to handle academic and student appeals? Thank you.
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