Mr. Chairman, at this point there are no government restructuring or reorganizing activities that are going on to accommodate self-government, so there really is not anything to monitor. I would say that departments are continually looking at their regional organizations and trying to fine tune it to maximum efficiency. So there are always small changes going on, but there are no organized department-wide plans that I am aware of where anyone would be organizing for future self-governments. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm aware that one of the departments, Health and Social Services, is in fact doing some work -- unless that's been halted -- in the area of realigning itself with self-government discretion in the Beaufort-Delta region. I'm aware of that. I'm also aware that the negotiators in the Beaufort-Delta are responding quite negatively to the fact that they feel this government has overstepped its boundaries in addressing that.

My concern comes out of the financial end. If we're expending what little resources we have available to ourselves to realign in advance of self-government going ahead, then we're already spending our money, and why would the federal government come back and reimburse us? We already know the federal government has talked about giving us back our incremental costs, but there hasn't been agreement to what would be considered incremental costs. So that's why I ask these questions. Under directorate here it states that this body provides advice to other departments responsible for the implementation of comprehensive claims and so on. That's why I ask the question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Handley.

Mr. Chairman, this department's responsibility is to provide advice to departments on financial implications of self-government or potential self-governments. In terms of other department reorganizations, there are always reorganizations going on, whether it's...I don't know if the Member is referring to the Sahtu health board and the talk about having one and so on. Then that kind of issue has to make organizational sense. It would have to come to Cabinet and to FMB if there were financial implications some day, but that certainly hasn't happened yet.

Mr. Chairman, to do anything like that now would be presuming on the conclusions of self-government and we're not doing that. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's good to hear the Minister say that, but it does raise a concern with me because the terms of reference were developed already for work to be done in that specific area, and looking at reorganization of health boards. One of the last reports for Health and Social Services talked about too many health boards, so that's why I would ask the question. We can't find enough money to try and keep our services at the levels they are or improve them, but we're going to find money to set up an administrative process. I think that totally belongs within the federal government realm when we talk about self-government financing. As the Minister says, that's too early yet, but I feel that in fact we're already starting to do that. Any work done now in that area is costing us some money, it's taking somebody away from what they could be doing on existing programs and services. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Handley.

Mr. Chairman, if the Department of Health and Social Services is developing a terms of reference or doing some review on their internal organization, then that's really a matter within the jurisdiction of the Minister of Health and Social Services and his department. It's not something that we would be able to veto or to provide advice on unless we were asked for it. It's something that they would be doing. Depending on what their conclusions are, if they want to make some major changes, they would have to come through Cabinet and Financial Management Board at that point. But up to now, we really have no role in that. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I guess the reason I raise these questions under the Financial Management Board Secretariat is it's my understanding that the Financial Management Board is like the check stop that keeps everything in line when it comes to financial resource decisions made by our government. I think this is a significant one where if we're spending existing dollars implementing what could be, unless this government feels that it's not the federal government's responsibility and it's our responsibility, then that would be news to me. So I think we need to clarify where we are and what our stance is as a government. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Handley.

Mr. Chairman, as I said earlier, our government has no position or no plan in terms of responding to self-government so that's not really an issue.

With regard to department reorganizations or reviews of their organization, unless they come to us for money, then we really don't have input into that decision. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. We're on page 2-37, directorate, operations expense, total operations expense, $5.9 million.

Page 2-39, directorate, grants and contributions, contributions, total contributions, $1.238 million. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The federal share of superannuation costs, we've have a couple of boards listed here. We have the Workers' Compensation Board and the NWT Power Corporation board. Does our superannuation fall under this category as well, the GNWT's own superannuation costs, or is that within the Department of Finance? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Handley.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The money that is shown in here is money from the contribution we receive as a government from the federal government for superannuation costs. This is just a proportionate share to the Workers' Compensation Board and the Power Corporation. So it's just loaned to them. It is part of that contribution from the federal government.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under our own GNWT costs or potential costs, there has been a fair bit of discussion and concern in the past with the federal government changing its Superannuation plan. We've since had agreement that they would continue to fund a portion of ours so we wouldn't be hit with such a...I think it was a $12 million to $13 million figure. Is that still out there, or has there been agreement now with the federal government to continue with that process? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Handley.

Mr. Chairman, that is still an outstanding question and will be part of the formula renewal negotiations. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Contributions, total contributions, $1.238 million.