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Financial Assistance For Students With Disabilities
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to reiterate something I have been pursuing the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment on over the last few days in the House and many months prior to that. It has to do with the student financial assistance for post-secondary students with disabilities. Mr. Speaker, currently those students with disabilities who manage to get into the conventional post-secondary educational institutions are covered under the student financial assistance. There is also a separate grant to meet extra needs. The concern I have is with those students with disabilities who work just as hard to obtain education that would make them fully employable and maximize their human potential, but not in conventional post-secondary institutions as recognized under the SFA.

The department has taken the position and continues to maintain that some of these institutions do not qualify as a post-secondary education. This is in spite of the fact that in July of last year, the SFA appeals board ruled to the contrary in reversing the department's decision. The board determined that: "based on the evidence, the transitional vocation program is a post-secondary school education for the purpose of the regulations." Mr. Speaker, I believe that this was the right decision and before looking into the interpretation of the SFA regulation section 12, that is in line with the general principle and the intent of the act itself.

Rather than respecting the decision and adjusting the policy guidelines accordingly, the Minister and the department decided to do the opposite. They have decided to dismiss the board's decision and treat it as though it's something erroneous and as a misinterpretation of the act. In doing so, Mr. Speaker, the Minister continues to exclude them from the SFA and by way of grants to NGOs, but this is not sufficient. This is, in effect, telling them that they are not equal. They are not as valued as those students without a disability. This also is effectively placing their future at the whim of the government policy and government financial stability of the day.

Mr. Speaker, this is wrong and I call on the Minister to revisit his position and make it right. I ask him to send a strong message that the students with disabilities are entitled to and deserve an equal place and treatment under the law; that we stand behind them while they go through inclusive schooling and beyond; that they have a place in our law and our regulations equal to that of every other student who struggles through the post-secondary education and into their working life. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Financial Assistance For Students With Disabilities
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, reports of standing and special committees. Item 5, returns to oral questions. Item 6, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Delorey.

Item 6: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 6: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

February 26th, 2003

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize the following Hay River North residents who have made the long trip over here from Hay River today as members of the Diamond Jenness Handbell Choir. I am sure Members will agree with me that they did a fantastic job. I would like to recognize Amanda Butler, Katy Garrison, Kari Williams, Kayla Gostick, the choir director Ms. Jennifer Tweedie and their two chaperones, Dixie Butler and Louise Gostick. You did a fine job and welcome to the Legislature.

---Applause

Item 6: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 6: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Thank you. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Item 6: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 6: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of this fine group up here, some of them are my constituents. I would like to recognize Jennifer Taptuna, Bryson Asels, who should get an award for being the only guy in the choir...

---Applause

...and Cori Bourne.

---Applause

Also, Mr. Speaker, I would also like to recognize Bob and Jennifer Decker who are here from my riding and they are here to observe their nephew who is paging in the Assembly today.

---Applause

Item 6: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 6: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 6, recognition of visitors in the gallery. I would like to recognize all the people who haven't been recognized. Thank you for coming today and I wish the people all the best in their travels. Item 7, oral questions. Mr. Roland.

Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have some questions trying to seek more information regarding the harmonization issue for the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation. I would like to know -- since this was initially pulled back last year and there has been some work done to bring it forward again and some of the numbers have changed -- if they have gone out to further consult with the groups across the Territories, specifically with elders.

Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.

Return To Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Our functional role in the overall issue of harmonization is to communicate to communities and the tenants that there will be some rent restructuring effective April 1st when the implementation date is scheduled to occur. We have been communicating that through the LHOs to what they agree and that has been disseminated into the community. I will ask our officials to give us a proper response. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister inform us if every group or LHO is delivering the same message? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.

Further Return To Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, there was a communiqué developed to ensure that each LHO is consistent in their message. There was a number of procedural information items provided to each LHO that they were supposed to be communicating that to not only the seniors, but also the students and also the regular tenants. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister inform us if the Housing Corporation itself has done any further consultation with those groups across the North? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.

Further Return To Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As of yesterday afternoon, when one of the questions raised to the Premier, I went up and called our department to inquire and I have been informed that there are ongoing consultations with community groups as to how much follow-up there is or has been, but I will ensure that as long as we proceed with this policy change, I will continue to work with all officials and LHOs and I will ensure that information is provided to each tenant.

Further Return To Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 103-14(6): Implementation Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Thank you. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.

Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister responsible for the harmonization initiative. Last session I asked this question of the Minister responsible for harmonization and the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment answered. I will let the Minister responsible for that program answer this question. As part of the federal transfer of funds to this government, I have been contacted by several of the chiefs in the NWT that wanted me to state that there is an obligation in there to provide to the Aboriginal people in the North, and housing is part of that obligation. For some time now, the federal government has been trying to absolve themselves from that obligation by building it into the formula funding for this government. We, in turn, seem to be moving away from that mandate. Can the Minister tell me if this harmonization initiative is within the mandate that we've inherited by taking in the federal dollars? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.

Return To Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The harmonization program is not a federally funded or federally driven policy change. That's the government policy. Our responsibility is to implement the policy changes and, therefore, Mr. Speaker, we have continually worked with the stakeholders in trying to address the key questions and we will continue to do so. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am glad to see that we have decided which Minister is going to take the lead on it. I am also happy to hear that this is this government's policy. That's clear now. So I would like to ask the Minister if he could tell me, could he define for us what is the principle behind this bill? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.

Further Return To Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Question 104-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the purpose of the policy was to set out an equalization of those who can afford to pay and also those who receive support from this government to ensure that we have a harmonized approach when we equate incomes and that income is equated through how they would assess rents based on that income. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.