Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Handley.
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Voytilla
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All of the positions, of course, their costs are recovered through the rates that are set and charged back to departments. So this operates on a break-even basis. The only position that was new and staffed as an additional position was the director of the TSC. There are three management positions that have been staffed internally, and then the rest of them are technical positions all staffed internally.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Voytilla. Page 2-53, information item, technology service centre, active positions.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Page 2-54, detail of work performed on behalf of others, total department, $639,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
We'll go back to page 2-35, Financial Management Board Secretariat, program summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $26.939 million.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
We'll go to capital acquisition, cap 3, Financial Management Board Secretariat, directorate, total directorate, $400,000. Mr. Roland.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a question on the financial information system review. We're talking here about a review, so can we get some clarification on that? Thank you.
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, yes, because that is part of the cost of the overall system. I suppose it's in some ways similar to engineering costs on a capital building or something. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That leads me to another question. Usually when you do have that planning, beforehand you have an estimate of how much it will cost after that. But you have nothing for future years here. What is their thinking?
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, we don't have anything in the future on it because we're not at the point yet where we know what the replacement would cost. It's, I suppose, again similar to a functional review when you are looking at a building. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Functional reviews; do they normally fall under O and M costs?
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, we need to look at replacing the FIS system, so at some point we need to do an assessment of what our needs are for a new system. Early on we don't know what that cost is going to be in the end. So at some point in the future we'll know what the cost is and be able to put it in. But right now we can't even estimate what the replacement to FIS is. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So the department has no estimates potentially of what this might cost in future years. I've seen estimates put in documentation and I've been told...I will use a specific example, in Inuvik the Aurora Campus facility, Public Works and Services did a review, gave some numbers, a figure showed up in the capital plan, reviewed potential drawings and whatever, a figure was established at $7 million and some, which is much less than the public services review. At least it was put in the books. Do we have anything like that in this case? Is it a shot in the dark?
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