Mr. Handley.
Debates of June 12th, 2003
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Bill 13: An Act To Amend The Public Service Act
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Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, I have several amendments to clause 3. Mr. Chairman, I move that clause 3 of Bill 14 be amended by deleting the proposed subsection 40.1(1) and by substituting the following:
40.1(1) No employer shall establish or maintain differences in the rate of pay between male and female employees who perform work of equal value in the same establishment.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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The Chair David Krutko
Could you wait until we circulate the amendment? The motion is in order. To the motion.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Question.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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The Chair David Krutko
Question is being called. However, I don't recognize a quorum so I will ring the bell.
---Ringing of Bells
We have a quorum. The motion is in order. To the motion. Ms. Lee.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. May I ask the Minister to read in, for the record, this motion and advise this House what it is this motion is trying to achieve? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, I already read it into the record, but if you wish, I will do it again. I move that clause 3 of Bill 14 be amended by deleting the proposed subsection 40.1(1)...
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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The Chair David Krutko
Excuse me. Everyone has received a copy of the motion as amended. Everyone has access to reading it. I don't think it's appropriate that the Minister has to read it out. We have copies. To the motion.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Question.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe I had a second part of the question. Could the Minister advise us why this motion... What is he trying to change in Bill 14, clause 3, subsection 40.1?
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, the change in wording in this section makes it clear that the comparison is between groups, male and female employees, or in other words patterns of pay discrimination which is what systemic discrimination is about.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Mr. Chairman, I am reading the original wording of 40.1(1) and it's quite different from this new motion being proposed. So I would like the Minister to explain... Obviously it just came about since he introduced the bill into the House. What is the substantive difference here between the two clauses?
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, I will ask Ms. Woodward to provide further clarification. Thank you.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Question.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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The Chair David Krutko
Question is being called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.
---Carried
Clause 3, as amended.
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, I have another motion. I move that clause 3 of Bill 14 be amended by deleting proposed subsection 40.1(5) and by substituting the following:
(5) In assessing the value of work...
Committee Motion 118-14(6): To Amend Clause 3 Subsection 40.1(1) Of Bill 14, Carried
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The Chair David Krutko
Mr. Handley, I believe you have a different number on your motion. You are dealing with clause 40(1). Mr. Handley.