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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could I just get a more detailed breakdown on how that $167,000 was supposed to be spent in the first place? Now we're reducing it by $67,000 so now we only have $100,000 for languages in the Legislative Assembly. So may I get information as to how that money was supposed to be spent, in more detail? Am I right in thinking it's for interpretation and translation of documents?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

That's correct, Mr. Chairman. It's been for interpretation and translating documents. So that's the only category for this amount of money.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question about the $64,000 reduction for committees. I've been a chair of a special committee, and my understanding was that there was no budget allocated for a special committee, but that you sort of have the permission to ask for a budget to conduct our duties. We hire research services, or legal services, or we travel to communities for public hearings on an issue or a bill or something like that. So could I get information on what is the budget for the committees to start with, then how would this $64,000 reduction impact on the work of the committees?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, the budget for the committees is something that is determined by the Board of Management. I don't know what their total budget is. I'm assuming that, depending on committee workloads, that amount can vary from year to year. The amount that has been identified here -- $64,000 -- is a number, is an amount that the Board of Management told us they have some flexibility with and they felt they could offer it up as part of the economizing measures. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

We're on page 5, Legislative Assembly, operations expense, office of the Clerk, not previously authorized, negative $139,000. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We know that through the course of the work of this Assembly in this session thus far, we've been sitting for about five working days, and I know that we've passed a lot of... Not a lot by our normal standards, but a great deal of legislation that would require us to engage in public hearings and it would require us to travel to communities. There is a possibility where even though we're going to do a 10 percent cut here, or whatever the percentage is, we will see a case where we may be going back for more money if it happens that our work gets overloaded and we're going to need more services and we need to travel more and so on. Thank you.

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The Chair David Krutko

The question is sort of hard to read, because your assumption is that if this happens or that happens. We don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, and I don't think the Minister is privy to what will happen, so I rule that question out of order. Legislative Assembly, operations expense, office of the Clerk, negative $139,000. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I realize that the Minister of Finance can only do so much. He sent out the directive to different departments, and the Board of Management is in charge of budget items for the Legislative Assembly and it has suggested that these are the areas where they could meet the need for economizing their budget and meet the guideline for 10 percent. If I am being hypothetical, then I'll rephrase that question. Is it a normal case that a section of a department, especially in the Legislative Assembly, where you have a certain budget, that something takes on a life of its own, it could be the Official Languages Act, or we have legislation, the Nursing Profession Act that's going to allow midwifery? Sorry, that's been passed. No, the Nursing Profession Act has been passed, but not the Midwifery Profession Act. We have lots of other legislation that's...

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Excuse me, Ms. Lee. We are dealing with the item which is the office of the Clerk. We are talking about an item that's not previously authorized, negative $139,000. So could you stick to that subject? Thank you.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm just saying that based on what we know about what we do, I would like to know, in any section of any government department, what do people do when they run out of money and there are extraordinary circumstances where they have to spend more money? Do they go back to Finance?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chair, committee chairpersons, like any heads of departments or divisions are all responsible for managing within their budget, and we expect that they will be able to do that. If there are some unforeseen circumstances, or something arises that's beyond their control, then there is a process for them to apply for supplementary money. Thank you.

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The Chair David Krutko

We're on page 5, Legislative Assembly, operations expense, office of the Clerk, not previously authorized, negative $139,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair David Krutko

Office of the Speaker, negative $20,000. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, may I get the breakdown of the $20,000 reduction that the Minister is asking us to vote on?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, my information from the Board of Management is that this is a single item, and the amount out of the cultural enhancement program that is being reduced is $20,000. Thank you.

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The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Bell, are you making a point or are you going to ask a question? Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know we received much of this detail in committee...

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Ms. Lee has the floor, so I will put you on the list and I'll come to you.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, $20,000 will be cut out of the cultural enhancement program. We have been getting correspondence from within this building to think of ways to make this place of people more reflective of the cultures of the Northwest Territories, and it's something that has been asked by many Members of this House. So I would like to know from the Minister what was the amount of money budgeted in the first place for the cultural enhancement program so I could know what is the percentage of the reduction in that program. Thank you.