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Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Are there any comments on Bill 10? Mr. Hawkins.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have just a few brief comments. Is it within the scope of the collection process? In order to get our money back, do we report this money outstanding to credit agencies? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Roland.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. It is currently our practice, as the Government of the Northwest Territories, to do that, but in the case of BCC, that is not the case? Thank you.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Hawkins.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, Mr. Minister. Specifically to the BCC, are you able to provide a reason as to why? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Roland.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will have Mr. Voytilla supply that in detail.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Voytilla.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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Voytilla

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would just make a note that this is the forgiveness act, so generally the items coming forward in this bill, there is no recourse to the debtor because of bankruptcy or the debt is statute barred. So the issue of reporting a bad debt to the credit bureau is probably less applicable to this act, probably more to the write-off act. Our policy, as a government, is to advise the credit bureau of our bad debts. The BCC currently does not do that on all their accounts, to our understanding. I believe in our discussions with them, that they are reviewing that policy and will be deliberating that with their board in the near future.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Voytilla. Mr. Hawkins.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. I believe that satisfies my initial concerns.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Ramsay.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I know the Minister has said he has exhausted all avenues of collection on these accounts, but can he say today with 100 percent conviction that none of these individuals actually work for the GNWT? Thank you.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I cannot say that all the people listed in this forgiveness act are not potential employees of the Government of the Northwest Territories. The problem we have there is if the time allotted or as allowed through legislation expires, as they call it statute barred, we are unable to proceed. So if someone has had a debt with the government a number of years passed and has applied for employment and has gained employment with the Government of the Northwest Territories, we have no avenue to go and recoup that.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Ramsay.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. What safeguards are in place for one department or one portion of the government knowing what the other one is doing? For instance, some of these folks here who we are going to be forgiving their debts that they owe to the GNWT, but from what the Minister is saying that wouldn't exclude them from walking into an RWED office and getting a BDF grant. I think there has to be some kind of safeguard in place that red flags these individuals, so they don't take advantage of the system down the road. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Roland.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. We do track the names of directors and individuals who have had debts and had them forgiven. We do track that. So if their names do come up in the system, when it comes to future grants or contributions from the government, it is taken into consideration. It is red flagged, I guess we could say. Thank you.

Committee Motion 19-15(3): Contracting Clauses Requiring Compliance With The Access To Information And Privacy Protection Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Any further general comments? We will defer the clause to consider the schedule first. Bill 10, debts forgiven, page 3.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Mr. Villeneuve.