Thank you, Mr. Bell. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation. Mr. Speaker, recently the Minister and I went to the Sahtu to talk about some of the housing issues in the Sahtu. I want to ask if the Minister could give me an update on the terms of the one seniors' facility in Deline that the people in the Sahtu would like to see open. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, the Honourable Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is a care facility in Deline that has been unoccupied for some time. We have put a proposal to the community to come back with something in writing, if they can find another use for it. We are talking to people within the department, from the Department of Health and also if there are any non-government organizations interested in making use of that facility, we are open to offers. So we have put an offer out there, we haven't heard anything back to date, so the offer is still there. So that is where it sits today.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister inform the House here as to some sort of a time frame that they would make a decision on it with the community of Deline, in terms of the uses of that facility? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is not the only facility that we are having problems with in regard to occupancy. It has been unoccupied for some time. We still continue to pay the operational costs of this facility. This is one of the items that have been put forward to the government by way of doing an assessment of all of our capital assets that have less than 30 percent occupancy. So we are putting the word out there that we want people to be aware this facility is available. Again, the corporation is definitely looking for someone to let us know if they are interested so we can dispose of this asset so it can be used for other functions besides a care facility.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister provide the House with the reports of the assessments? He mentioned they are doing assessments of less than 30 percent occupancy of those types of facilities that they are responsible for. Would he provide this House with the report within the time frame? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I should be able to acquire that information and get it to the Member so he is aware of other facilities we're talking about. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I look forward to that assessment report from the Minister. Also, would the Minister provide this House with a timetable that he is going to work with the Minister of Health and Social Services in terms of seeing what type of occupancy that the people in Deline can look forward to in terms of occupying that seniors facility and that they can at least

have some decisions as to where to go next with that facility? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in case the Members don't know, this facility was developed as a long-term care facility for the Sahtu and because the Sahtu is now in the process of establishing their own regional health board, there is still going to be a need for programs and services to be delivered in the Sahtu. So that's sort of where the discussion is at, that that facility still has the ability to provide services for the Sahtu region. So that's what the department or the regional health board is open to. That's sort of the dialogue that has taken place today. We are still open to use that facility for what the purpose was. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I don't know what to pursue today, maybe I'll just continue on with my Member's statement. To the Minister of Justice, Mr. Speaker, on the issue surrounding low morale problems and high vacancy rate and high overtime and such, I see two problems there. One is that I don't think there's recognition on the part of the Minister, he's never admitted or acknowledged that there is any kind of problem and the more he says that, the more our phone lines and our e-mails and everything is burning up because people are getting really, really frustrated. The second thing is the more we ask questions to the Minister and the department about these problems, the answer keeps coming back saying well, it's because there is a transition going on at the centre and whenever there is transition there are problems with change. That seems to not be the one that people are accepting either. They don't believe that is the problem. They have no problem accepting that. It's a whole lot of things. Mr. Speaker, one thing that keeps coming up is the fact that the warden of the correctional centre is related to a senior manager in the department and I'm very uncomfortable with this idea. This is a very small town and these are very good people, I'm sure they are doing a good job. I want to know from the Minister, to assure the people out there, what steps have been taken to ensure that there's no direct supervisory link. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Minister of Justice, the Honourable Mr. Dent.

Mr. Speaker, I am not prepared to address that kind of question in this House. I would submit to you, Mr. Speaker, that this issue has been addressed in this House where a person is named in this House who has no possibility of representing themselves here, and I believe that in the past the Speaker has ruled that that is not admissible. I believe that this is the same situation, because we have now identified two individuals very clearly and they have no way of addressing that in this House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Dent. The Chair will remind Members to not make reference to specific individuals in the House who are not here. The Chair did think that that question was slightly not related to the individuals in particular but, Ms. Lee, I will allow you a supplementary.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I totally appreciate what the Minister is saying and it is something that I have been thinking about for many months, many weeks now. It is true; I am giving the Minister an opportunity to explain what is happening in the department. It hasn't anything to do with the individuals. I am telling the Minister that there are concerns, and I want him to explain to the House what he has done as Minister of Justice to make sure that all is in good order. It's true; those two employees can't explain themselves. I'm giving the Minister an opportunity to explain that everything is fine and that there are measures in place so that relatives are not reporting to each other and I think that's important. We live in a...

What is your question, Ms. Lee? I didn't hear a question there, Ms. Lee. Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question was what has the Minister done as a Minister to make sure that there is no perception or occurrence of anything wrong going on? I think he could explain that because it's his department, it's his employees...