Thank you, Madam Chair. Can I ask the Minister or his staff through you, Madam Chair, we talked earlier about how you screen all the applicants in order to be so-called homeowners on either program. What happened in this regard in the case of the total of 22, I guess, if you talk both programs? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. McLeod.

Madam Chair, can we get a little further clarity from the Member as to what program he is referring to?

Thank you. Mr. Pokiak.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm talking about the 44 loan guarantees where there were four defaults. I don't know if that's the HAP program or not. You might even have to clarify with me because I don't know what EDAP is about, but I'm talking about it anyway. There are 18 defaults in that regard too. I'm just wondering, can you explain or let us know exactly what happened? Did the corporation do a thorough review or screening of the applicants when they first submitted their names or did they just say, there are four units here, would you like to invest in them or not? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. McLeod.

Madam Chair, I'll refer the question to Mr. Anderson.

Mr. Anderson.

Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Mr. Pokiak.

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Mr. McLeod.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, this is part of the targeted area that we wanted to improve. As I mentioned earlier, we want to ensure that our clients and tenants are fully aware of what they would have to be responsible for if they are tenants in our units or entering the homeownership programs. We are planning to upgrade the skills of our staff and ensure that the upfront discussions are clear and understood by the people that are making the requests. The seniors' program is something that has been in place for a few years now. The seniors have to come to us to request the program. We then can advise them as to all the responsibilities. We do have after care for these people. Again, that's something we want to make sure they're aware of. We have maintenance programs they can access to assist them. We have seniors' programs that they could qualify for and failing that, if it's a real emergency, we have emergency programs that they also can access. We have a number of programs. In fact, we have I believe 24 programs out there targeted for different initiatives. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Pokiak, anything further?

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just one quick one here. I'm going to have to jump into this BIP again. I

guess being new to the system, I understand the GNWT does have a BIP in place in terms of contracts and stuff like that. I'm just wondering, in this instance we're talking about...what is it 24, 22 units with the Housing Corporation? I'm just wondering, Madam Chair, how many other times will the Cabinet make decisions without coming to AOC or somebody else to talk about going to open tenders? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. I think that Mr. McLeod might be in a difficult position to respond to a question about what the Cabinet might do. He's just one Member of the Cabinet. It's kind of a hypothetical question that might be difficult for the Minister to answer on behalf of the Cabinet. Perhaps when the Department of Executive is up and the Premier is in the chair that would be a good question to pose to him because he's in charge of this. Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Anything further? Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. On my list for general comments I still have Mr. Hawkins.

I'm waiting for you to reset the clock, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I'll probably be very quick. I'm looking for some inspiration from the Minister in regard to his plan to purchase some 42 new market rental units. Will the Housing Corporation be fronting the cost of all these 42 new units before the program starts or are they planning to pre-sell these? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. McLeod.

Madam Chair, we are buying these units. They're our units up front. So we are, as you mentioned, fronting the costs.

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Hawkins.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Does the department have a plan if people don't buy into these houses or this housing plan? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Mr. McLeod.

Madam Chair, we have a number of options if these units are not utilized by tenants who are willing to pay full market rent. However, we don't want to anticipate that to happen. We are quite comfortable that these units will be utilized. We've had a number of communities that have already come forward and indicate that they wish to buy the units all up and down the valley where we're targeting these units to go to. There's a lot of interest, so we're not anticipating being in that situation.

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Hawkins.