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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you. Madam Chair, one of the biggest projects that the North has seen for a long time, or has ever seen I guess, there's a lot of talk about right now and that's the Mackenzie Valley pipeline and everything that it's going to bring with it. A lot of that activity, if this thing is going to become a reality in the time frames that we're looking at, a lot of that activity could start happening within the next few years I would think. Highway No. 1, I am sure, would see an awful lot more traffic towards Fort Simpson. I travelled that road some time ago last fall and there were quite a few bad spots on that road at that time. What kind of contingency plan does the Department of Transportation have for addressing the needs of that highway when we see a lot of increased activity on that road? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the potential of a pipeline is becoming more of a reality all the time, and there is concern of how it will impact our infrastructure and all modes of our transportation systems. Our officials have been meeting, they have been doing review and potential impacts. We are anticipating that we will have a report out by the end of this coming summer.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Next on the list I have Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. Very quickly I will make my comments to the opening remarks. Transportation is a very important area in our region. If it wasn't for some of our people and the history, the North may not have been opened up by some of our people. Some of our "stick people" up in the Sahtu may not have helped with the transportation of opening up resources and development that is happening now in the Northwest Territories. The amount of oil and gas we have in the Sahtu...(inaudible)...happened there last year, companies want to spend time up there looking for that elusive mother of all fuels in the Sahtu. Because of the season and the safety concerns, they are unable to do it. I support the Minister in his comment that by having some thought and some design to the Bear River Bridge that you will bring extra dollars into the Sahtu region. You will give us that extra three weeks of doing shopping and visiting each other. This road is open for three months of the year. Down here we have roads that are open 24/7 almost, so for us it's welcome news that it will pay off in the long run and it's something that I want to let the Minister know that that's something we've been asking for for a long, long time. With the increase of oil and gas in the Sahtu region and other potential development, we strongly support this initiative to have the benefit as do other Members in the southern part of the Northwest Territories take. Please don't close the light on the Sahtu region now when we are finally beginning to open up.

I guess my other comment to the Minister is we have a number of small airports in the Sahtu region. When can we expect to see some work done on these small airports in terms of the assessment? If the activity is going to increase in the Sahtu, they are going to have larger aircraft coming into the smaller communities to pick up people, haul groceries or haul people for employment in other areas. Is there going to be an assessment of our airfields in the Sahtu to keep up with the standards of the types of aircraft that are going to be used in the Sahtu region? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. I didn't know what you meant when you said "stick people," but I've figured it out now. Thank you. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Madam Chair, the response to that question from the Member is something that I mentioned before, that there is a study going on with Transport Canada. Our officials are working with them and we're trying to analyze the impact of a potential pipeline. All modes of transportation are being evaluated now or what the potential impact for transportation would be. The communities that Mr. Yakeleya represents are included. They are part of the impacted communities along the route, so we will be looking at those communities, also. Again, the study should be done by the end of the summer.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. General comments on the Department of Transportation. Are we ready to proceed to the detail?

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Some Hon. Members

Detail.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Detail. I'll direct Members' attention then to page 10-9 in your main estimates book. Corporate services, operations expense, total operations expense, $7.996 million. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. May I ask for a breakdown under other expenses, please? Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I'll ask Mr. Neudorf to provide that detail.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Neudorf.

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Neudorf

Thank you, Madam Chair. For corporate services, the other O and M budget is made up of a number of different things. We have some travel and transportation expenses there of $230,000; there are some ongoing office supplies, materials, that kind of thing; purchased services in terms of telephones, fax, couriers and some utility payments; some contract services related to some studies that we would undertake on the planning side of things for the most part. There is some funding identified here to continue the negotiations with the Deh Cho Bridge Corporation. We also have some fees and payments; bank fees, membership fees. About $600,000 in other expenses; those are exclusively composed of chargebacks for the TSC for the digital communications network, for the financial information system, and then a minor amount for computer software, software assurance for Microsoft. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Neudorf. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. May I get the dollar figures attached to the materials and supplies, purchased services, utilities, contract services and fees and payments? Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Neudorf. Oh, I'm sorry. Who would be answering that? Mr. Neudorf.

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Neudorf

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll just run through the entire list there for the Member's information. Travel and transportation, $230,000; materials and supplies, $120,000; purchased services, $172,000; contract services, $550,000; fees and payments, $50,000; other expenses, $600,000; computer software, $30,000.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Neudorf. Corporate services, total operations expense, $7.996 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Airports, operations expense, total operations expense, $21.932 million. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. May I get the breakdown for other expense items for $7.3 million? Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Neudorf.

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Neudorf

Thank you, Madam Chair. The total $7.37 million, of that total $200,000 for travel and

transportation; materials and supplies, $780,000 and would include supplies that we need for the actual operation of our airports like de-icing chemicals, runway sand, sweeper brushes, mechanical shop supplies, that kind of thing; purchased services, $237,000; utilities, $1.45 million, which is mainly the services around the operation around our air terminal buildings; contract services, $4.48 million, that would include some security contracts, janitorial services, maintenance contracts and the actual operation of some of the smaller airports, which would be mostly contracts with the local contractors and/or community directly; fees and payments, $90,000; other expenses, $62,000, which is made up of chargebacks to the TSC; and computer software, $82,000.