This is page numbers 403 - 454 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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Further Return To Question 102-15(3): Community Franchise Recommendations Of The Robertson Report
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 102-15(3): Community Franchise Recommendations Of The Robertson Report
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it's my understanding that a number of the community franchises are not signed and in place right now with the Power Corporation. Legislatively, what instrument do we have to prohibit a company coming in, other than the Power Corporation, and competing for power supply in those communities? Right now, at the present time, what's stopping that from happening? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 102-15(3): Community Franchise Recommendations Of The Robertson Report
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Mr. Premier.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, there are some franchises that have terminated and have not yet been signed off, but we are in the process of doing that. To my knowledge, there really isn't anything that would prevent someone from coming in and setting up a competing structure if they wanted to. In most situations, they would have an incredible task on their hands if they wanted to handle both generation and distribution. Mr. Speaker, I expect that if they were to try and set up a whole new system or duplicate a system, the Public Utilities Board may also come into play on that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 102-15(3): Community Franchise Recommendations Of The Robertson Report
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 102-15(3): Community Franchise Recommendations Of The Robertson Report
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Premier if he has any plans or if this government has any plans to put something in place from a legislative point of view, that would create a monopoly for those communities which are presently being served by the NWT Power Corporation, to prevent such a scenario from happening. We know that in Fort Simpson it almost did happen, where an outside community came in and took that particular community out of the NTPC revenue base and mix. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 102-15(3): Community Franchise Recommendations Of The Robertson Report
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Mr. Premier.

Further Return To Question 102-15(3): Community Franchise Recommendations Of The Robertson Report
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, the Member is correct, that there were 22 recommendations in the Robertson report. Franchises certainly was one of them. That is something we are looking at, and certainly will take into consideration the issue about having people come in and try to provide energy services in selected communities. So our intention as we put together our action plan on the Robertson report, which we fully intend to do, is to prevent that kind of cherry picking from happening. But at the same time, also leave it open for northerners who may want to try some alternative methods of generating energy on their own, whether it's solar panels or possibly even generators that they would set up in their own businesses to produce both heat and energy. So we don't want to exclude everyone from having input, but we do want to prevent people from coming in and picking out those that are profitable. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 102-15(3): Community Franchise Recommendations Of The Robertson Report
Question 102-15(3): Community Franchise Recommendations Of The Robertson Report
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 6, oral questions. Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Question 103-15(3): Waiving Of The Business Incentive Policy
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to pursue questions on the BIP issue. Mr. Speaker, last Friday in Hansard on page 826, the Minister of RWED...My question is to the Minister of the Housing Corporation. I do want to say that the Premier and Ministers McLeod and Bell on Friday made commitments to this House to provide various stats and figures, based on which they made the decision to waive the BIP. It was supposed to be done before session and we still don't have it, so I have to pursue more questions. Mr. Speaker, I am not clear about how these decisions came about to waive the BIP. There was a suggestion that this decision was made in the last Assembly. Then there is a suggestion that we have to go now, we can't put a brake on or else all projects will fail. So I would like to ask the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation who decided to waive this BIP, this Cabinet or the last Cabinet? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 103-15(3): Waiving Of The Business Incentive Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there was a commitment made on Friday to provide information to the Members, and I have followed up and we're expecting that information to be here shortly. In response to the question on who made the decision, the initiative was developed in the 14th Assembly, however, the Cabinet of the 15th Assembly confirmed and it was to go ahead to proceed with this whole initiative. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

I wonder if anybody notices the irony that the Cabinet could take a whole assembly to make a decision like this, but Members on this side have no say whatsoever. We get two weeks' notice and we have to go with it or else. We are being told over and over the government will not revisit this, that he will not put any brakes on this. Mr. Speaker, I think there is less than full information that we know about what is surrounding this contract. All the Ministers have suggested that they are waiving the policy, because having the policy in this contract has the potential to increase the cost. The Ministers also suggest that they have to go with the most economically feasible one, and that northern contractors have the option to apply, suggesting that everybody is open to bid on it and whoever bids the best will get it. But, Mr. Speaker, I have information that suggests that the Minister and the government is really going for the southern contractors. So I would like to know from the Minister whether or not there has been any direct communication between the department with the southern contractors to see this contract go to the south. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 103-15(3): Waiving Of The Business Incentive Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. McLeod.

Further Return To Question 103-15(3): Waiving Of The Business Incentive Policy
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm not aware of anybody in the south who has been contacted. There may have been some contacts made in terms of assessing what the average cost of these units would be, but I have not seen any information in that regard. We are quite comfortable that there are many, many people picking up the tenders, including northern people interested in bidding on these things. But in response to the Member's question, no, I am not aware of any companies that were contacted, at least not any that have been brought to my attention. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would suggest that the Minister speaks to his officials and confirms as to whether or not southern companies were contacted about this contract and, if so, whether any northern contracts were contacted as well. Mr. Speaker, my last question; I do not understand the rationale that if we put a break on this tender process until some questions are answered that are being raised by the Members in this House, that we're not going to see housing this fall. I don't understand that rationale. I would like to ask the Minister again whether or not he would consider extending the time by one month? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 103-15(3): Waiving Of The Business Incentive Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. McLeod.

Further Return To Question 103-15(3): Waiving Of The Business Incentive Policy
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you. As the request from the Member indicates, there seems to be some dissatisfaction with the communication. We are having a Cabinet meeting on Thursday, and it's something I will bring up for discussion. However, we have to keep in mind if this project is deferred by a month, we certainly will not meet the barge deadlines and, therefore, may not be able to go ahead. However, I will commit to the Member that I will bring it forward for Cabinet's discussion. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 103-15(3): Waiving Of The Business Incentive Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 6, oral questions. Member for Kam Lake. Mr. Ramsay.

Question 104-15(3): Waiving The Business Incentive Policy
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will continue where my colleague, Ms. Lee, left off. I have some more questions for the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation. The Minister states that if we delay the tender, that the units will not get into the communities, and I must say I don't disagree. This has to happen and it's the timing of the whole thing. But, Mr. Speaker, what evidence is there that the Housing Corporation has consulted and communicated with northern manufacturers? Will the Minister provide this House with that information? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 104-15(3): Waiving The Business Incentive Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I already made the commitment that I would go back to my officials and get that information. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.