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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would like to indicate, first of all, that I will be speaking and voting in favour of this bill. The environment surrounding the Akaitcho work to achieve their self-government and land claim agreement is well documented. I won't go into any of that. There is one aspect of the Tlicho process that I did want to see if the Minister could, for the record, put some accounting before committee. That concerns the Metis people and their belief or their concern that their rights or access to land and other privileges that they believe they should have access to may be curtailed or hampered by the wording of this particular agreement. I had a constituency meeting in the Great Hall here a few weeks ago, Madam Chair, and heard from representatives of the Metis community with great strength. I recall also at the committee hearing similar concerns were expressed.

I won't pretend to speak on their behalf of exactly what their concerns are, but they've been well documented for the public and I would like the Minister to give some explanation from the government's point of view of how the Metis' concerns are addressed or being managed in the course of this bill. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Premier Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. I believe Mr. Braden is referring to a lot of the issues that have been raised by the North Slave Metis. They've been raising those concerns for a number of years and have also been lobbying the federal government to establish a process for them to be able to negotiate their particular interest. We have worked with them. We have helped to facilitate meetings between the Metis and the federal government, but until the federal government recognizes or agrees to a negotiation process for the North Slave Metis, then there really isn't a lot that our government can do to answer the questions or deal with the interest that they have expressed.

In the meantime, while they have been doing that, the Tlicho and the Government of Canada have proceeded with the negotiations of the Tlicho agreement. That agreement was signed almost a year ago and that is now in effect. So the legislation we have before us today follows up on that legislation and we are bound as one of the signatories and certainly bound because of the Tlicho agreement to comply with the terms that have been laid out in the Tlicho agreement.

I realize having said that, Madam Chair, that the North Slave Metis are not happy with that situation, but there is not much that our government can do other than encourage them to continue to try to convince the federal government to set up a process. Unless we have that, we really can't do anything. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Premier Handley. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. In the context of that whole process then, has our government taken any steps to bring the federal government around and get these concerns addressed? Is it something that we believe should be looked after? Are we prepared to or have we done any advocacy on the part of the Metis people in this? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Madam Chair, I have raised this issue verbally with the Minister of DIAND, mainly to bring to his attention that there is an outstanding issue here which is creating some difficulties for us in terms of defining every aboriginal group or government authorities and responsibilities. Madam Chair, in the last government, we certainly assisted the North Slave Metis in their efforts. We paid for trips to go to Ottawa to meet with the federal government. If I recall correctly, the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs at the time also wrote a letter encouraging the federal Minister to resolve this issue. But beyond that, it's not our government's role or responsibility to try to resolve this. This is really an issue between the North Slave Metis and the federal government. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Any further general comments? If not, we will move on to the consideration of the bill clause by clause. If you will turn to page 16 of the bill, we will stand down consideration of the clauses at this time and consider the two schedules to this bill as the first step. They are located on page 99, schedule A, boundaries of community governments. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Schedule B is on the next page, consequential amendments.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Committee Members, if you could turn back to page 16, Bill 5, Tlicho Community Government Act, interpretation, clause 1.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Clause 2.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Page 20, Clause 3.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Clause 4.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Clause 5.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Clause 6.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Part I, establishment, clause 7.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.