This is page numbers 205 - 230 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Supplementary To Question 89-15(4): Helping Students With Special Needs
Question 89-15(4): Helping Students With Special Needs
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 89-15(4): Helping Students With Special Needs
Question 89-15(4): Helping Students With Special Needs
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not going to embark on a formal assessment process that would take millions of dollars to assess the special needs of every student. Teachers and educators are qualified to tell us what they need in their classroom to get the job done. That is what we are going to depend on. We have used that method of determining how we should support special needs and will continue to do that. I am quite anxious, like the Member, to see us be able to better support the needs of students in the classroom. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 89-15(4): Helping Students With Special Needs
Question 89-15(4): Helping Students With Special Needs
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. McLeod.

Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
Item 6: Oral Questions

October 11th, 2005

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today my questions are for the Minister of Public Works and Services. We have seen newspaper reports that Samuel Hearne was going to be open later in the month. I want to ask the Minister the question that is on everyone's mind in Inuvik: When will the school reopen so that teachers and parents can get on with their year? Thank you.

Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Roland.

Return To Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the plan for reopening of the Samuel Hearne Secondary High School is for about the middle of December, but our goal is to have the classes back in operation in the high school after the Christmas break. Thank you.

Return To Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I said in my Member's statement, when foyers collapse and foundations fail, someone has to be held responsible. Would the Minister give parents, students and teachers some reassurance that their school will be safe when it reopens and indicate whether he has or plans to order an internal investigation to find out who is responsible and what needs to be done to prevent failures like this again? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Roland.

Further Return To Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has been identified quite some time ago that with the reduction scenarios that the previous governments had gone through and reduced expenditures in certain areas, and the area of the Capital Replacement Program was one of those areas that took a hit. If we did not bring that capital back up, we would indeed find ourselves in problems. The particular facility in Inuvik as well as the other school in Inuvik have been on the capital plan for quite some time and have been bumped for a number of years. As we know, the planning is proceeding with a replacement of SAMS and we are looking at the replacement of the high school, as well.

Mr. Speaker, I guess, ultimately, when it came down to making the decision on the closure of the high school, as I

told parents at the public meeting in Inuvik, I would rather be there apologizing for the fact that we were not able to use the facility for a school at this point. I would rather do that than trying to apologize for the loss of a loved one if we found ourselves in another situation. That is why we made the decision not to open that facility. Safety came first. We have been working around the clock, so to speak, to get the issues addressed with and dealt with on the facility itself so that we can have it open. If the facility opens sooner, we will look at trying to get the classes back into the high school.

On the issue of dealing with the Department of Public Works and Services and the work we do and the events around this facility, a seemingly ongoing venture on this facility, I am, as Minister, taking responsibility for that. The decision is made within my department, and I am taking the necessary steps to ensure that the right actions are taken in dealing with all the events that surrounded the decisions and the process that was used where we found ourselves with that facility. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
Question 90-15(4): Structural Problems At Samuel Hearne School
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod. Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my questions today to the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation. It gets back to the statement that I had made earlier. I haven't got an official response. It has been over three weeks since I have sent an inquiry to his department on what was the just cause for the cancellation of a contract to build two units in Rae. I would like to know why a small company located in my riding is being penalized. They put up the five percent bid bond, they followed all the rules, and they are left with nothing. I would like the Minister to answer what the just cause for the cancellation of that contract was. Thank you.

Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. Krutko.

Return To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there was a bid process which did take place. There was one bidder. But there was also another process that was in the works in regards to a negotiated contract from the community of Rae in regards to allowing them to do it through a negotiated contracting process. At the time, under the process for negotiated contracts, you needed the support of the local MLA. They did not have an MLA at the time the request came in. At the same time there was a change in government with the Tlicho Government in the community, and there was a transitional period that was taking place. Because the Tlicho agreement is now in law, we have to abide by that legislation. There are sections of those agreements which we have to consider through a contracting process, especially in regards to section 26 of the Tlicho agreement. Again, these processes have taken place. We have asked the parties to sit down and see if they can work out their differences. We had several meetings but, again, they were unable to resolve it. So we had made an extra attempt to get the parties to try to work this through, but the proposal has gone forward. It has gone to Cabinet going through the negotiated contracting process.

Return To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Supplementary To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad to hear that response from the Minister. I guess I am to believe that now the Housing Corporation has only one company they can do business with in Rae. Am I to believe that? What happens to the public tendering process now that the Tlicho have their agreement in place? Is there a public tendering process in place that is fair and open to everybody, or is it just one company that we have to do business with at whatever the price is? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Krutko.

Further Return To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have a whole slate of processes that we can take. We can go sole source, we can go negotiated or public tender. The key component of what we are trying to do is build capacity to ensure that those dollars remain in the communities. You build capacity. You have tradespeople and the people that you need to carry out future projects. The biggest challenge we are facing in all of our small communities to date is we do not have tradespeople in those communities to carry out our activities at the Housing Corporation, and other businesses in regards to building high schools and public infrastructure, and we have to find a way to build that capacity. This is one way that we are doing it. I think, because of the opportunities that this allows, we have to look at those things.

Again, what we are seeing in regards to the Gwich'in area through their MOU, they are formulating partnerships with individual companies to come forward through joint ventures and proceed in regards to these tenders by way of negotiated contracts. It has happened in other areas but, again, people have to understand that we are under a different regime by way of the Tlicho land claim agreement. We have to acknowledge that and also accept that there is going to be change through this devolution process. So it is devolving. People have to understand that by working together. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Supplementary To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can appreciate the Tlicho self-government and where they want to get in building capacity. I can understand. At the end of the day, the contract was cancelled. That was a legitimate contract/tender process that went out and was cancelled. I would like to ask the Minister what he plans on doing to rectify that situation.

I would also like to -- while I've got the floor, just a quick one -- know what the Housing Corporation is currently doing to try to help the Tlicho Government. Are we looking at giving all the housing dollars over to the Tlicho and letting them administer it and, as well, does that include any human resource positions that should be transferred over to the Tlicho Government so they can conduct this work themselves? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. There were two questions there. Mr. Krutko, you can answer one or both.

Further Return To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Housing Corporation reserves the right to accept or reject any bids based on the tendering process. It is spelled out in the tendering documents. It does not always have to go to the lowest tender. Because of that, we are looking to a legal opinion in regards to how this issue will be resolved. We are working on that.

Again, in regards to the Tlicho ability to take over housing, under their self-government arrangement they have that ability once they feel they have the capacity to do so. It is up to them to determine when they want to take over that responsibility. Again, that is part of the devolvement process in regards to the Tlicho Government. We are hoping to work with communities, the Tlicho Government, and other areas, to get them more involved in housing and allow them to take more ownership of housing, but also take on the responsibility of housing in their communities. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Your final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Supplementary To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can hear what the Minister is saying: that the Housing Corporation reserves the right to cancel or alter the tender process, but there was only one bidder. There was only one respondent bidder to that tender, and it was cancelled without just cause. That is what I am getting at, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister when I can expect an official response on the just cause for that contract being cancelled. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
Question 91-15(4): Cancellation Of Housing Tender In Fort Rae
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Krutko.