This is page numbers 337 - 368 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Supplementary To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Premier tell us today how much money, to date, this government has spent on pipeline preparedness? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Premier, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I can't tell you how much the government has spent in total in preparation for the pipeline, because all of our departments, almost without exception, have been involved in some way or another. We have all spent time on this issue. As well, Mr. Speaker, it would take a lot of time to pull that kind of information together. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm concerned that there's no backup plan if the pipeline doesn't go through. Can the Premier tell me what will happen to this investment if the pipeline doesn't go ahead? Will we have any long-term plan for the benefits that we've been studying or thinking about?

Supplementary To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Premier, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, diversification of our economy has long been a goal of our government. We have a very active diamond mining industry. We have a lot of exploration going on for other kinds of minerals. There are two or three pipelines coming out of the Territories right now: two coming out of the Deh Cho and one from Norman Wells. Mr. Speaker, I expect that everything isn't going to come to a stop if we don't have the pipeline. But, Mr. Speaker, it would be a sad day if we don't see the pipeline, in my view, because this one does represent a huge opportunity that would be lost, and we would see many of the people living, particularly in the smaller communities along the valley, who would be hard pressed to find employment and self-sufficiency. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Your final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Referring to my Member's statement, I pointed out that there were more than 30 positions that have mushroomed all about pipeline preparedness. So millions of dollars are being poured into this. What, if any, is the strategy for the long term with respect to these pipeline preparedness positions, keeping in mind that this pipeline may never go through? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Premier, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

I'm not sure where the Member is getting information that the pipeline is not going to go ahead, because all of the indications that I have are that Imperial wants to build the pipeline, that aboriginal leaders want the pipeline, our government wants the pipeline, the federal government wants the pipeline, and I believe that it is going to go ahead. Having said that, we have invested a lot of money in pipeline preparedness and training people on the anticipation that this will happen. I'm still of the view it is going to happen. But, Mr. Speaker, as I said, if it doesn't go ahead for some reason, then I think it is a sad day, because there will not be the jobs, and there will not be the revenues to our government and aboriginal governments and to people throughout the Territories that we would have if this did happen. Mr. Speaker, I want to emphasize that we are working on the information that this pipeline will happen. We are in the middle of serious negotiations, and I fully expect that it is going to proceed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
Question 145-15(4): Mackenzie Gas Project Planning Costs
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed WCB Office Complex
Item 6: Oral Questions

October 17th, 2005

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions today are for the honourable Premier, and it goes back to my Member's statement from earlier today. I'm just wondering if the Premier knows, or can tell us, what type of consultation took place between the Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board and the Minister responsible, in terms of this new office building. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed WCB Office Complex
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Premier, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed Wcb Office Complex
Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed WCB Office Complex
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, first of all, let me clarify that the Housing Corporation is an entity that is a corporate...Oh, sorry. I'm sorry.

---Laughter

I apologize, Mr. Speaker. The Workers' Compensation Board is a corporate entity that is separate from government. They operate on a basis of collecting premiums and then paying out compensation for workers who are injured from that premium. The Minister responsible is the Minister responsible for the act, and he manages the overall legislative direction to the Workers' Compensation Board. The Workers' Compensation Board

would have advised the Minister of this proposed investment.

Mr. Speaker, I want to also say that I congratulate the Workers' Compensation Board for taking some of its investments and considering how it can invest in the North. There was a time when the investments were largely elsewhere, and that was something that was of concern to us as a government. In terms of the detail of this consultation, the Minister has been advised that the Workers' Compensation Board has talked with the Yellowknife and Northwest Territories chambers of commerce; they have talked with the NWT Construction Association, the NWT Chambers of Mines, and the NWT Federation of Labour. I'm not sure who else, but those are the individuals they have talked to, at least, and I'm sure they've also spoken with the City. There has been a fair bit of discussion on this proposed investment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed Wcb Office Complex
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess it's kind of the same as when Regular Members have to deal with injured workers and we feel completely left out of the process. If the Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board was advised of this type of investment taking place, I'm wondering why he didn't advise us, and we had to ask him and request from him a meeting to go over the business case for such a move. Does the government or Premier feel that it makes sense to allow the Workers' Compensation Board to build this office complex outside of the downtown business core of the city of Yellowknife; the capital city? Does it make sense to move this office and 100 workers outside of the downtown core? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. I'm going to rule that question out of order. It's asking the Premier for an opinion. Do you want to rephrase your question, Mr. Ramsay, or follow-up supplementary? Mr. Ramsay.

Supplementary To Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed Wcb Office Complex
Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed WCB Office Complex
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'll rephrase my question for the Premier. Does the Premier and the government feel that they should support the downtown capital area of this, Yellowknife, capital city of the Northwest Territories, by maintaining the Workers' Compensation Board and the 100 jobs they represent be in the downtown core? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed Wcb Office Complex
Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed WCB Office Complex
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Premier, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed Wcb Office Complex
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The government has been monitoring what is happening. We have not become directly involved. Certainly, the core area of Yellowknife and its future is of concern to all the citizens of Yellowknife, the same as it would be of any residents of any other town or any other city. What's happening to the core area? What should stay in the core area, and what should possibly be moved out? There are individuals who have talked to me about it and have expressed their concern that this is one more move toward destroying our downtown. So there are certainly people who would prefer to see it here. Mr. Speaker, I intend to speak directly with the mayor about this issue, and I recognize the planning for the city is really within the mayor and council's jurisdiction directly, not ours as a government, but we certainly have views with regard to the future of any of our urban areas. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed Wcb Office Complex
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Supplementary To Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed Wcb Office Complex
Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed WCB Office Complex
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to ask the Premier, I guess for Regular Members, what is our best course of action in trying to communicate to the Workers' Compensation Board that, as a Yellowknife MLA, I feel the 100 jobs should be downtown? I think we should pay attention to the revitalization project that's taking place downtown, and try to maintain these jobs downtown. I'm wondering if the government should write letters to the Workers' Compensation Board chairman. Should we talk to the mayor? Who is going to take up that fight on the government's side of things? Is it going to be the Minister responsible, or is it going to be the Premier? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed Wcb Office Complex
Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed WCB Office Complex
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. A couple or three questions there. The honourable Premier, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 146-15(4): Consultation On Proposed Wcb Office Complex
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think any of the Legislative Assembly Members who want to take up this issue should take it up with the chairman and the board for the Workers' Compensation Board, as well as the City. It is my understanding that this land that the Workers' Compensation Board is interested in would have to be rezoned. That's an issue that the city council will have to deal with, and certainly you have every right and responsibility to speak to the mayor and council on this issue if you wish. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.