Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister be committed to coming to the community of Tulita to look at this contaminated site and meet with the people to look at a timetable to have this site removed? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have committed to the Member that sometime early in the new year we want to do a tour of the Sahtu, and when we are in Tulita, I would be happy to make sure that we take a look at the particular site. Also, we indicated the last time that we traveled there that we didn't have the opportunity to overnight in Tulita, so the intention would probably be to overnight there and spend enough time and look at the concerns that the Member may have. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for Minister Michael Miltenberger. To his surprise, it will be under his Environment and Natural Resources hat for a change.

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I saw a smile. Mr. Speaker, I have a constituent who has a cabin out in the Cameron River area. I went to visit them, at their urging, two weeks ago. I have raised this issue in the House a number of times, but the fact is that people are out clear-cutting, making trails and making roads that do not exist on any map, and they are establishing them by driving all over the brush, building campfires, leaving toilet paper, Tim Hortons' paraphernalia; who knows, it never ends. While I was visiting this area, there were shots being fired nearby, so I certainly hope someone was lining up their sights, as opposed to shooting at me or game in the near area. Mr. Speaker, what is being done in this area that I speak of, to protect that area? I would like to hear that from the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, an Ingraham Trail Working Group has been established. The issue of the shots, if that is the same incident that I am familiar with, was reported to the police. There were steps taken to go and investigate. There has been work done by this working group to ensure that there is better monitoring and enforcement. I know ENR staff, as well, have been asked to go out and take a look. We also could deal with the fact that a lot of the land in question is federal Crown land. We are taking steps. I understand that ENR has noticed significantly less damage than it had in the past. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Member raises a number of good issues that would be grist for the mill for the Ingraham Trail Working Group, the Centre Agency Working Group, to look at a number of these issues. I understand that some parties, in fact, requested garbage bins. Whether they should be there or not, those types of very specific on-the-ground issues are the ones that that working group could best address. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are putting garbage bins on land that isn't ours. We are pouring cement pads, and we are putting the big blue boxes again on land that isn't ours, yet we pretend that we are not responsible for it. Mr. Speaker, I have to tell you, if you plant a garbage can there, they will come. They are coming because there is garbage everywhere out there. There are beer bottles and whatnot. Mr. Speaker, I am asking the Minister to be proactive on this issue. Would he seriously commit today to telling that group to say, look, let's come up with a plan, put some rocks to block those areas, and move this unofficial park somewhere else, because these are by legal cabins. I can guarantee you today that no one in that area has asked for garbage cans to continue this negative activity. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the specificity of the Member's suggestions. As I indicated, I will make sure that I talk to the department officials about it and that, when the interagency group gathers, they can put their minds to this and some of those very specific suggestions made by the Member. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the clock, so I will be brief. Would you not talk to them? Will you tell them to block those entrances, so we can allow that area to regrow in a healthy natural way? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, once again, I will take under advisement the Member's strong suggestion of how I should approach the matter either arbitrarily or in a more proactive way. But I appreciate the intent of the Member's questions, and I will bring it forward. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is on the Novel housing. As I stated earlier, Mr. Speaker, the Housing Corporation has a budget of $70 million a year. When we are talking about $220 million of government's money on housing going into a project, it is absolutely massive. It is great if we could get $90 million from the federal government towards our social housing. That is more than we ever got for many years, so this is an unprecedented opportunity. I think it is only fair that Members on this side; the construction industry; the supplier of materials; Aurora College, where they do training -- I mean our Apprenticeship Program --

everybody should be involved in this project when government is suggesting spending $220 million.

Mr. Speaker, even an amateur economist agrees that every dollar an individual spends, and a government spends, multiplies by at least fourfold. We are talking about a billion dollar project. The Minister of ITI should be involved in this project, not all Yellowknifers, and 40,000 from NWT that could go to Calgary and look at this project. I want to know what his plan is to get buy-in, and get information out to the people. Is he suggesting that he is going to bring 40,000 people to Calgary to look at this project? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Krutko.

Mr. Speaker, again, I don't know how many times I have to stress this, but this project is a no-go without a pipeline. We have been talking to all the players involved in the pipeline. That includes the Mackenzie gas project themselves. We are looking at the Aboriginal Pipeline Group. We are talking to the aboriginal communities that are affected, and the leadership in those communities, so that they can see for themselves exactly how they are going to be involved in this project, and how they can benefit from this project. I think for so long, Mr. Speaker, we have seen projects come and go in which we do not see any benefits to communities and people in those affected areas. Again, Mr. Speaker, this is an opportunity that we have by way of this $8 billion project that we are hoping to be able to deal with the social crisis we have in our communities. We have heard it from all the Members. We have heard it when committees made their presentations. We heard in the House the crisis that we have by way of housing in the Northwest Territories. The biggest impact of those crises is in the Mackenzie Valley. This is a perfect opportunity for us, Mr. Speaker, to be able to find solutions to these housing crises that we are facing, and an opportunity to really make a difference in regard to how housing will be delivered in the Northwest Territories but, more importantly, to those communities that are affected. With that, Mr. Speaker, thank you.