Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, this does meet the initiatives that we have tabled in the House. This is one of Public Works' portions of it; it is to increase the amount of work that we have been doing in this area to ensure we can cover a lot of our buildings that are out there and ensure they're operating efficiently, and if they're not, having to identify how we can make them more efficient. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Madam Chair. So can we expect something from your office or the shop that will be coming into our communities and scanning and checking these government-owned buildings and basically tell us, "This is how you can save more or be more effective or efficient in your energy efficiency," as part of the overall initiative set out by the government through the energy programs? Is that something that we are to expect maybe sometime within the next month or so? Will we see the Department of Public Works people come in to, say, for example, Tulita to check on the government-owned buildings? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, this is to help us to get out to communities to do a profiling of our facilities. With this funding, we're planning to purchase another camera, thermal scanning equipment, and do some more training so that we can have more people getting out there to all the communities and doing the scanning. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Minister, in terms of the thermal scanning equipment and coming into the smaller communities with the DPW staff and just looking at the government-owned buildings, because of the way this thing is rolling out, is there any way that the smaller communities could have their homes checked? I'm not to sure if I'm going above and beyond the mandate of DPW in terms of the role that they play with regard to scanning the government-owned buildings. If they're in town, would they mind looking at this place over here? Can they do something along that line? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I believe in some of the discussions early during this session about our energy initiatives, this issue had come up, and I believe we can work with the community governments while we're in a community to try and see what facilities we may be able to look at with this equipment for community governments. It's something we can work with and possibly work with MACA on as well around that initiative. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to thank the Minister for his flexibility to work with other departments and possibly work with some of the other organizations, if it makes sense in regard to following the government's overall initiative on energy programs that they want to implement. I look forward to seeing this in the communities. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Next I have Mr. Hawkins.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just briefly want to say that I'm in full support of the thermal cameras. I've seen them used, I've seen the reports, I've seen the good work that they can do. I'm in full support of the government making this accessible to any community government or any type of community initiative that can get that camera working. They're worthless on the shelf if they are not being used. So you might as well get them working, but I would not like to see any initiative at the cost of those cameras. They are $40,000 plus. I would not like to see them in unskilled hands. So I just want the assurance from the Minister if we're going to do this, that we only ensure at the highest office that this is only used by trained staff who are familiar with this material. If we lend this thing out and it gets dropped, it goes missing on an airplane, I mean these things are not that large and they get scooped up pretty quick. So I'm in support of this initiative. I think the Minister hears me clearly that I'm in favour of it getting out there and getting it used, because I think if it's gaining dust, it's useless. However, I do not want unskilled people using this camera. It's a very expensive piece of material. So I would like to hear that assurance from the Minister. Thank you. This is my only question.

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins, and I do believe that the Minister already spoke about the training for the people who are going to be utilizing the cameras, but I will let the Minister respond to that question. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, part of this initiative is to purchase one more camera, as well as provide training. That's one of the issues we have to keep in consideration, is it will be through trained hands that this equipment will be used in communities. So that will be one of the situations we'll have to keep track of as there are a lot of facilities across the North that can use this equipment. So that will definitely put a drain on how soon we can get to some of the communities and facilities. But, yes, we will be training, and we will be making sure that all the work is done through those that are trained. Thank you.

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $916,000.

Agreed, thank you. Health and Social Services, operations expenditures, not previously authorized, total department, $9.054 million. Mr. Ramsay.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I've got some issues with the $50,000 that is proposed to contract a financial consultant to complete a cost analysis of the measures needed to mitigate the health and social impacts of the Mackenzie gas project. I think there might be some good work there, but it's kind of like pinning a tail on a donkey. There never has been an $8 billion pipeline built in this territory, and I don't know how anybody going out to try to do this work would get any type of data to start it. Where do you start, and how do you even know what the costs are going to be and what the mitigating factors are going to be when it's never been built? I don't know why it's being proposed, to be quite honest with you, Madam Chair, and I'd like to hear from, if not the Minister of Finance, the Minister responsible for that. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the $50,000 that's being requested by the Department of Health and Social Services to deal with the proposed Mackenzie gas project, they're looking to contract the services of a financial consultant to complete detailed cost estimates and projections for the mitigation of those impacts on health services at the regional authority level and at community health programs. As well, detailed cost estimates on projections for the mitigation of impacts on social services, community counselling, mental health addictions, child protection, family violence at the regional and community levels as well. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Ramsay.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Again, I'll stick by my contention that it's complete guesswork, absolutely complete guesswork without knowing what's at play and what's going to happen. I just don't understand, again, the need for it. I'll see if anybody else has anything to say about it before I move a motion to delete it. Thank you, Madam Chair.