Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Ms. Lee.
Debates of Feb. 14th, 2005
This is page numbers 1191 - 1224 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was going.
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Return To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I can appreciate that the money might be a factor in something like this, but putting that aside I would like to get a more clear picture from the Minister as to what the GNWT's position is as to what this National Childcare Program should look like. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the NWT, like most jurisdictions, is willing to accept the accountability provisions as long as there is adequate money. The problem we face right now is if the money flows to us through the CST and comes only in a per capita basis, the costs to report on what we are doing would take up an awful lot of the amount of money that we would get. As Members of this House know, if we get funding flowed to us on a solely per capita basis, we will not get enough money to make a significant difference in the childcare field. So our position is that there has to be base funding plus a per capita, and we're asking for base funding of .51 percent, which would amount to about $5 million. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I would like to know if the Minister was to get the money that he's looking for or somewhere near to that, what is the plan of this government in terms of putting in its own money? Is there any plan for the government to put in its own money? I'll leave it at that for this question. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this government already puts millions of dollars into early childhood programs and we will continue to invest in early childhood. Whether or not we would increase our funding is something we would have to take a look at. Without knowing what the amount of money is that we're looking at, it's difficult to advance any plans. We are quite ready to move forward and we had hoped that we would get some signals from the federal government on Friday that would help us advance our plans so that we would be prepared to move things forward. The federal Minister has indicated that in all likelihood the money will ramp up. In other words, we won't start to see the money flow in equal amounts each year; it will be a gradual increase, which means that we will have some time to develop the plans to take advantage of the money as it starts to flow.
Further Return To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are so many questions to this and the details to work out and the debates to have, perhaps the Minister could make a statement in the House about where the government's position is. But in the interim, could I get the information from the Minister as to whether we're looking at a nationally run child day care program, or are we looking at tax benefits or are we looking at 50/50 funding? Putting aside the dollar commitments that the federal government is willing to give, because we do hear numbers flowing around, what is this government's position as to what this childcare program will look like that will best benefit the people of the NWT? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, childcare is an area of exclusive provincial and territorial responsibility. We're not talking about a national system, we're not talking about something that would be the same in all jurisdictions. For instance, Quebec already has a system that is the envy of everybody else in Canada and they're putting billions of dollars into that. Our system is starting from a different point, as is every other system in Canada. So what we're talking about is a program where the federal government would assist the provinces and territories to improve on the systems that we currently have. We've agreed on the vision as a national priority and what each of our systems should look like. Ours will continue to be an individual system and we will build on the strengths of the system that we have in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
Question 373-15(3): Meetings With Ministers Responsible For Day Care
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
February 13th, 2005
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the elders' long-term care home facility in Deline has been closed for a number of years. To date the government continues to pay operating and maintenance costs on the facility, but have yet to determine its use. Mr. Speaker, it's really hard to imagine an empty building in a community when there are not enough buildings to administer programs and services that people have daily access to in larger centres. My question today is for the Minister of Health and Social Services. Will the Minister tell me why the elders' long-term care home facility in Deline is closed?
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The Minister of Health and Social Services, the Honourable Mr. Miltenberger.
Return To Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this goes back quite a few years, but there was a determination made sometime after the facility was built that it wasn't needed for the purpose it was designed. Therefore, it was no longer used. Thank you.
Return To Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister tell me what are the operating and maintenance costs associated with this facility? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my colleague, the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, has just indicated to me that the mortgage payments are over $22,000 a month. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, will the Minister tell the Legislative Assembly what the department has considered for the use of this facility in Deline?
Supplementary To Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'm aware of the interest in the region and in Deline for the use of that facility and, as a government, it's a facility that we built and we're funding to pay the mortgage on. We have looked at it with its potential for a long-term care facility and a number of months ago, as we were doing our review of facilities across the NWT, there was an initial review done of the facility where it was indicated to us that it would cost about $3 million to upgrade the facility to the current code and standards for a long-term care facility. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Question 374-15(3): Long-term Care Facility In Deline
Item 6: Oral Questions
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