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Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

First of all, I will endorse the development of this department. I can appreciate, as many Members say, about conflicting mandates. It's late, so I won't go into how deep my support runs, but it runs deep. I will say one thing with regard to the cost. When we do the official split in a few weeks, I would endorse that the Ministry keep the same uniforms and we phase things out. So don't throw all the business cards out just yet and the letterhead. Maybe we can do things in a smart manner. The cost associated with that is quite significant and so would throwing it all out and starting from scratch.

I have two questions. The first one my colleague had mentioned regarding Giant Mine. There is a big concern I have with regard to brown fields and contaminated sites in the Northwest Territories. The Minister would be no stranger to the Giant Mine, growing up here. He is well versed in understanding the arsenic problem. Without going into significant details, what is his department going to do in a lead position to address the Giant Mine problem as well as balancing the other brown fields across the Northwest Territories that need immediate action and attention on a federal government level?

The second one, just moving along, because I know Members are exhausted, is if he could speak in the context of which communities will get the first rollout on the beverage container area and how he expects that to be rolled out in a public education sense. So it's beverage container and Giant Mine, two easy softballs. I would like to get some idea on what is happening with those two issues. Thank you.

Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Bell.

Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's difficult for me to provide a very quick response to the first one, that's Giant. We are in discussions and negotiations with the federal government at a deputy minister level. Peter Vician has that file and has been working and meeting with his counterparts in DIAND to see if we can come up with an agreement going forward. I have met with DIAND Minister Andy Scott specifically on this issue and propose that we set aside some discussion in terms of surface cleanup that had been bogging us down. That was a discussion around responsibilities and liabilities and just talk on what the cleanup would cost and try to fix a proposed cap of exposure for our government in terms of finances. That discussion is ongoing, but we saw this as the only way forward to have this long, drawn out discussion around legal liabilities and try to resolve all of those legal issues first. My sense was that we were going to be doing this for some time and I didn't think that was the best use of our time and resources. So we hope we are fairly close to a surface agreement that can see a cleanup start in the very near future.

In terms of underground, we are convinced at this point the freezing, the in situ alternative that had been proposed by the consultants DIAND was using, is the most effective method at this point, so we are supportive of that. We've always said this is entirely a federal responsibility. We maintain that. I don't think the federal government disputes that.

So the underground and the above ground issues are moving forward. I think we can expect though there will be

a long, environmental assessment process and a thorough one. It will likely be a couple of years before we see some of that work on underground take place. It will require monitoring and treatment in perpetuity with this option, so I am sure that if options become more available as technology changes in the future, the federal government has a real incentive to adopt those from a financial point of view. I will certainly provide more detail in future as this develops. I know the deputy minister must have had five specific meetings with officials in the last month on this issue, so there is a lot of work being done. The department knows this is a priority for us and is pushing ahead quite aggressively.

It seems we had proposals from about nine communities in the Northwest Territories on the beverage containers. There are obviously quite a number of other communities that we have to engage in and involve in this process now. We are looking, as I said, to roll out the depots and processing centers where we do have proposals. The notes I have here indicate we had 14 proposals for community depots and seven proposals for regional processing centres. We are in the process of evaluating and awarding those now, but obviously that does leave a void here in terms of other communities. That's our next challenge, to start to work with those other communities that we haven't got proposals from yet. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Minister Bell. Mr. Hawkins.

Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. I believe that will be more than enough questions for me this evening. So at this time, I would like to report progress.

Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

You have to make a motion to report progress.

Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I would like to move that I report progress.

---Laughter

Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Okay. I move we report progress.

Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I move we report progress.

Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The motion is in order. The motion is not debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

I will rise and report progress. Thank you, Mr. Bell, Mr. Bailey, and Mr. Kennedy.

Committee Motion 22-15(3): Recommendation To Develop A Reorganization Communications Strategy And Deh Cho Mvpo Position, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Item 21, report of Committee of the Whole. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 19, Appropriation Act, 2005-2006, and Committee Report 10-15(3) and would like to report progress with one motion being adopted and, Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Do I have a seconder for the motion? The honourable Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger. The motion is in order. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Item 22, third reading of bills. Mr. Clerk, orders of the day.

Item 23: Orders Of The Day
Item 23: Orders Of The Day

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, orders of the day for Wednesday, February 23rd, at 1:30 p.m.:

  1. Prayer
  2. Ministers' Statements
  3. Members' Statements
  4. Returns to Oral Questions
  5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
  6. Oral Questions
  7. Written Questions
  8. Returns to Written Questions
  9. Replies to Opening Address
  10. Petitions
  11. Reports of Standing and Special Committees
  12. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
  13. Tabling of Documents
  14. Notices of Motion
  15. Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills
  16. Motions
  17. First Reading of Bills
  18. Second Reading of Bills
  19. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

- Bill 15, Tlicho Community Services Agency Act

- Bill 17, Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation Act

- Bill 19, Appropriation Act, 2005-2006

- Bill 20, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2004-2005

- Committee Report 9-15(3), Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight Report on the Review of the Draft 2005-2006 Main Estimates

- Committee Report 10-15(3), Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development Report on the Review of the Draft 2005-2006 Main Estimates

- Committee Report 11-15(3), Standing Committee on Social Programs Report on the Review of the Draft 2005-2006 Main Estimates

- Committee Report 12-15(3), Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures Report on the Review of the Report of the Chief Electoral Officer on the Administration of the 2003 General Election

- Minister's Statement 86-15(3), Northern Strategy

- Minister's Statement 88-15(3), Update on Oil and Gas Development in the NWT

- Minister's Statement 89-15(3), CommunityLeaders' Conference Report: Preparing for the Pipeline

- Minister's Statement 90-15(3), Social Impacts of the Mackenzie Gas Project

- Minister's Statement 91-15(3), Preparations for the Mackenzie Gas Project

  1. Report of Committee of the Whole
  2. Third Reading of Bills
  3. Orders of the Day

Item 23: Orders Of The Day
Item 23: Orders Of The Day

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until February 23, 2005, at 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 7:24 p.m.