Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Dent.
Debates of March 9th, 2005
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Committee Motion 37-15(3) To Amend Clause 9 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As outlined in the opening comments by the chair of the standing committee, there were a number of issues that were raised in the review with the standing committee and a commitment was made to come back with amendments during the standing committee process. But when we appeared before the standing committee with the amendments, the suggestion by the standing committee was that we deal with them in Committee of the Whole. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 37-15(3) To Amend Clause 9 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What was the reason again? Was it strictly the Social Programs committee that wanted it to come forward this way to Committee of the Whole?
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Committee members, could we just speak to clause 9, as amended? Mr. Dent, would you like to respond to Mr. Ramsay's comment?
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can only go by the chair's opening comments to the bill today in which it was noted that the committee decided not to proceed with moving any amendments during its clause-by-clause review in order to allow for discussion of any motions in Committee of the Whole during its review of the bill in its entirety so that all Members could participate.
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Committee Motion 37-15(3) To Amend Clause 9 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh
Point of order there, Mr. Chairman. We're dealing with an entirely new bill here. That's not the one we began with, so I don't know what's going on.
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Can you tell us what your point of order is, Mr. Menicoche, on Bill 17? Thank you.
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Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh
Well, if the chair will permit me a break, I'll dig up the exact clause, but what's going on is that this is not the same bill we started off with. Nor is it the same bill Social Programs reviewed.
Chairperson's Ruling
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Okay, to Mr. Menicoche's point of order then, his point of order is that the bill has been changed in substance to the extent that it's no longer the same bill that was brought forward and, in fact, these are amendments to the bill which can be voted on as we proceed through the bill. This is a normal course of business. So, Mr. Menicoche, I'm sorry; you don't have a point of order. To the motion on clause 9. Mr. Menicoche.
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Committee Motion 37-15(3) To Amend Clause 9 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Committee Motion 37-15(3) To Amend Clause 9 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. What this is changing is, if you look at the first section in quotation marks where it says "section 6 of Bill," there's no number there and now it says "Bill 17." At the time this was initially presented to committee we didn't know what number it would be. So it would be a normal course of business to make this change as part of the committee
review had they considered our bills. But this is to put the bill number in.
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An Hon. Member
Question.
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.
---Carried
Clause 9, as amended.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Committee Motion 38-15(3) To Amend Clause 10 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. I move that clause 10 of Bill 17 be amended by striking out "section 6 of Bill," in proposed section 1.1 of the Workers' Compensation Act and by substituting "section 6 of Bill 17,".
Madam Chair, this motion amends clause 10 to correct the internal reference back to Bill 17, Modernization of Benefits and Obligations Act, in a new application provision being added to the Workers' Compensation Act.
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Mr. Dent. We'll give the Pages a chance to distribute the motion and Members a chance to read it and think about it. The motion is in order. To the motion.
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An Hon. Member
Question.
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.
---Carried
Clause 10, as amended.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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