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Supplementary To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think the troubling aspect of the debate in this House about this issue is that the focus is so much on the money and the jobs being created, which is not a small thing. After all, we make decisions about how to spend money and such. Today, I think I was trying to indicate in my Member's statement that we need to focus on the children that are

being treated there because of very, very severe issues that they need to be helped with.

These educators are not just an agent that gets government money and just runs this program. These educators are also the experts about educating children and they are aware of what issues these children are being treated with and what they need clinically, psychologically, everything. I would think that Cabinet, when they were deciding to move this, would have looked at what this would all mean. I don't think it is good enough to say we are going to take care of that in the future. I would like to know what sort of pre-op work has been done. What information did the Minister bring to the Cabinet table in discussing this issue? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. It wasn't an issue that was brought to the Cabinet table by Education, Culture and Employment. It was a proposal by the Minister of Health and Social Services. However, I would say Education, Culture and Employment is prepared to ensure the children, no matter which community they are located in, receive the appropriate services. When I talked about the money, I was talking about making sure that we had the money to pay the salaries of the people that would be required to provide those services. That will follow the children.

Further Return To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Shorter supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Supplementary To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Short supplementary. I would like to think that when Cabinet Ministers look at transferring a program like this they would work with more information than just transfer this. I like to think that the Education Minister would have brought to the table what it would mean to the kids there, because obviously the Cabinet and the government are the caretakers. I would like to know what information, if any, has he got thus far about what kind of education program these students will be needing. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The education programs are delivered in the Northwest Territories by divisional education councils. They are funded to deliver that program. In this case, the appropriate divisional education council will be funded to deliver the program. The expectation is that appropriate programs are provided no matter what needs the kids have. That is why we have an inclusive schooling policy. It doesn't matter where a child is in the Northwest Territories, it is the responsibility of the divisional education council to make sure that they provide appropriate programming for that child; whether that child is in Hay River, Yellowknife, Inuvik or Fort Smith. It makes no difference. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Further Return To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Final supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Supplementary To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. It is obvious that the Minister doesn't know the full information about this, because we are not dealing with special needs children who need inclusive programs here. We are talking about children who are far beyond the needs of inclusive schooling. Does the Minister know that these students, eight of them, cannot be absorbed into one school? The benefit of having them in Yellowknife is that they can be chosen to go to any of the seven schools. There is no way one school could absorb all of these students, because they have such high needs. Does the Minister of Education know that? Why does he not know that, if he doesn't know that? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Minister Dent.

Further Return To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The population in that facility today may be totally different in 18 months, so I can't speak for where the kids may be able to go in 18 months. I can tell you, as far as I know, Hay River has more than two schools.

Further Return To Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Question 51-15(4): Territorial Treatment Centre School Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, from the Minister's statement on tourism in the Northwest Territories, he made reference to the millions of dollars being spent in the Northwest Territories. I wonder if the Minister could tell me how many dollars were kept in the Northwest Territories. They may have spent millions of dollars in the Northwest Territories but in a rough estimate, how many dollars were kept in the Northwest Territories as a result of the figures that he has given us? Thank you.

Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Mr. Bell.

Return To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'm not sure I'm clear or maybe I just don't understand the question. The money generated, the additional GDP generated in the Northwest Territories, I have given the Member those figures in the statement. Those are some projections for the 2004-05 season. We believe that the vast majority of that money stays in the Northwest Territories. Obviously there is some leakage. I don't think that we are able to quantify what the leakage would be, but it would be no different than any other jurisdiction, I don't believe, in that most of the money probably stays and is spent and circulates in that jurisdiction. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Return To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Minister Bell. Supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Supplementary To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

May 30th, 2005

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Minister has answered the question partially. I will follow up later on with that question privately. The question I guess I want to ask the Minister also, in terms of the creation of the new Department of ITI, and giving industry a new profile within this government and within the industry of tourism, what is the government committing to do to work with the aboriginal governments in terms of giving the profile of industry in the Northwest Territories? What type of commitment has he given the aboriginal governments in the regions to heighten the new profile with ITI?

Supplementary To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Minister Bell.

Further Return To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. One of the things that we sought out to do when we sat down to do our analysis of roles and responsibilities of the department, vis-a-vis the industry association, was to better understand who is doing what currently, to talk about who should be doing what and to address some gaps.

One of the gaps that we felt in tourism in the Northwest Territories was regional representation; in fact, regional impact on the ground across all regions of the Northwest Territories. We think that there are compelling arguments to be made for tourism money to be spent everywhere and that everybody should have an equal chance to develop their industry. We think that a lot of product development needs to take place in many of our smaller communities. We are proposing a new tourism funding model. We are talking to industry about that; I have met with committee about that as well. One of the pillars is to ensure regional representation on a new destination marketing organization.

We haven't, I guess I would say, crossed the t's and dotted the i's yet, Madam Speaker, but we are working on a model that we think will be as representative as possible of both sectors and regions. I think that is a very positive step. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Further Return To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Minister Bell. Supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Supplementary To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The funding model that the Minister has alluded to, also speaking to the tourism industry I guess my question is not so much the tourism industry but what types of discussions is he having with the aboriginal governments in the regions in terms of this model? It may have some consequences to the land claim settlements in some of the regions that have settled the comprehensive land claims. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Minister Bell.

Further Return To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. We believe it is an enhancement of the current model and will allow for additional funding to flow into regions, but we talked about working with our tourism partners, by sector, and with regional and community organizations in order to make sure that tourism money is able to best hit the ground. Obviously, we will be talking with aboriginal governments and the relevant organizations in the regions to talk about how we can best achieve that. So going forward as we sit down with committee and industry and have a better handle on what this model will look like, we will be meeting and discussing this with all the relevant stakeholders and regional organizations. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Further Return To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Minister Bell. Final supplementary, Mr. Bell.

Supplementary To Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Question 52-15(4): Tourism Revenue Kept In The Nwt
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, the point I would like to ask questions on is to the input from the regional organizations, more importantly the regional governments in the Sahtu, or the aboriginal governments that have a high stake in seeing tourism flow into our region. What can the Minister commit to in the next couple of months in terms of ensuring that the aboriginal governments will be part of this model that could used in the Northwest Territories? Thank you.