Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.
Debates of June 1st, 2005
This is page numbers 137 - 176 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.
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Return To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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Supplementary To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Maybe this government can do one for old Diefenbaker's vision here and push it over the hill, so we can get an all-weather road in the Sahtu and have the federal government give us full support and attention to this matter. Can the Minister advise of any type of public consultation that his department has undertaken with the people of the Sahtu to build an all-weather road in the Sahtu region?
Supplementary To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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Further Return To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Madam Speaker, we have had several meetings in the Member's riding. We have been there on a very regular basis over this past year. The issue of an all-weather road or the condition of the Mackenzie Valley winter road has come up on more than one occasion at every meeting. It's a huge concern. It's a significant cost factor. That's something that we recognize. We've also, as part of our consultation, contacted the stakeholders with our proposal, our new draft of our proposal, including the Member. He will be receiving a copy of this proposal. We are also contacting the chamber of commerce and the trucking association. So we are trying to contact as many people as we can to get some feedback to see if everyone is in agreement that we are on the right track. So that consultation process is ongoing and we will be packaging it up sometime later on this year to bring it forward to the federal government for consideration.
Further Return To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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Supplementary To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, regarding the consultation, is there a specific forum that the people in the Sahtu can get together and talk about the strategy and an all-weather road in the Sahtu? I appreciate the Minister's steady trips into the Sahtu and the people appreciate that. What I am looking for, Madam Speaker, is that the Minister can have a specific forum so people in the Sahtu can get together and talk specifically about an all-weather road strategy into the Sahtu so the Minister can take notice and put it into a package for the federal government. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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Further Return To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Madam Speaker, we are in the process of updating our long-term strategy. The document Investing in Roads was put together in 2000 with consultation with all regions. It's something we would like to update this year. As part of that, we will be talking with the community leaders and we are also hosting a conference, or we just recently hosted a get together with the contractors and some of the people who work for us and do the maintenance on it to see what we can do in terms of improvement.
As for the Department of Transportation to hold a conference, I don't think that's something we were planning to do and I don't know if that's something I would be interested in doing at this point. We have gathered a lot of information over the years. We know the different costs that are required to build roads in the Dogrib region, in the Sahtu or in the Beaufort-Delta. So we have the information. We know there is a need there; we just need to find the right avenue to get the federal government to agree to fund it. That's what we are doing. If there is a need by the Member for us to have a meeting or specific community meetings, we would be happy to do that as we continue to travel into his riding. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Madam Speaker. With the Minister continuing to travel into the communities, hopefully one day he will be able to drive into our communities. The Sahtu is having an annual gathering in August in Colville Lake. I would invite the Minister to that meeting and have a meeting there with the people. Would the Minister consider looking at this type of meeting with our people in terms of bringing the solution to the Sahtu who know the solution: Build the road that can be done over a number of years by using a community approach method and connect all the communities in the Sahtu before connecting down south? This year, I understand there is going to be about $60 million going into the economy of the Sahtu with oil and gas. I think it's about time the federal government, through the Minister, pays high attention to building an all-weather road in the Sahtu. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. I think it was a question in response to an invitation to come to a gathering in the Sahtu. Mr. McLeod.
Further Return To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, we are always very interested and happy to go into the Sahtu, as we have demonstrated over this past year. Anytime we go to the community,
many issues come up and the road, I am sure, will be at the top of the list. We have heard the message from the Member. We have heard the message from his communities that connecting the communities is a very important role. There are other areas in the NWT that need also to be given some attention to be able to connect and improve transportation links within the community. That is an area we will be focussing on as we draft our proposals. We will keep that in consideration. Rather than focus strictly on reconstruction as a result of high pressures from resource development, this time around we will take into consideration the need to have good transportation links amongst our communities and that will be part of our focus. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 72-15(4): All-weather Road For The Sahtu
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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Minister McLeod. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.
Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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Bill Braden Great Slave
Thank you, Madam Speaker. My questions this afternoon are for the Minister of Finance and this is in relation to the decision to move the Territorial Treatment Centre to Hay River. Madam Speaker, this Assembly in the last fiscal year, 2004-05, approved an expenditure for the Territorial Treatment Centre here in Yellowknife. I wonder if the Minister could give us a bit of background. What was the amount of money that was approved and what was the status of that project as approved by this Assembly for the last fiscal year? Thank you, Madam Speaker.
Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister of Finance, Mr. Roland.
Return To Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. The money that was approved in 2004-05 for the Territorial Treatment Centre and subsequently brought forward this year would lapse and as we are doing now, the money has now been identified through the supplementary appropriation that is going to come before this House and will be dealt with in that fashion, requesting the Assembly to approve the change in designation of those funds. Those funds were identified for the facility, Territorial Treatment Centre, in Yellowknife. To move that money now to upgrade that facility would require approval of this Assembly. Thank you.
Return To Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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Supplementary To Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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Bill Braden Great Slave
Thank you, Madam Speaker. When a plan is brought before the Assembly and approval is given, there is an expectation that it will happen or that at least an explanation will be provided in a timely manner why it's not happening. Until a few days ago, Madam Speaker, this House was not aware that the plans to invest that money in the TTC here in Yellowknife had been changed. Can the Minister explain why this Assembly, and certainly at least the Members for Yellowknife, were not made aware of the stoppage of a major program approved by this House? Why didn't he tell us about it? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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Further Return To Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, the project as was outlined in the budget and as the budget is approved, there are expectations from communities and those who have been working on the project of that project moving ahead. There are many projects we can use as examples of a project being on the capital plan and even to the point where you see identified for the next fiscal coming up is then deleted from that program because of other issues that have come up. In this case, the Department of Health and Social Services came forward to FMB and Cabinet to identify changes in plans and had brought forward the material to request the change and a designation. That has been given and now we are following through as required by the process that we have in place of informing the House as well as seeking approval for moving those dollars that were approved. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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Supplementary To Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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Bill Braden Great Slave
Thank you, Madam Speaker. We are about two months into the new fiscal year now. There must have been some months in the past fiscal year that the government had new information and changed its mind about something but didn't tell us. Will the Minister tell this Assembly today what was it, several months ago obviously, that caused Cabinet to change its mind about the investment in the TTC here in Yellowknife? Thank you, Madam Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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Further Return To Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, the process that we use as a Cabinet and FMB when Ministers would come forward with plans or changes in plans, they would have to come and address their changes to us and seek our approval. In this case, a facility was being considered for a major retrofit or replacement and the estimates that are put into the document, in the budget we vote on, are class D estimates and are still subject to change.
As another facility had become available in the territory and looking at the decentralization aspect of government as well as how we conduct our business, this was brought forward and approval was sought through FMB and we received it. That is why we find ourselves as we are today with the request coming forward through a supplementary for a change in designation of that money. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 73-15(4): Status Of 2004-05 Funding Approval For Territorial Treatment Centre
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