This is page numbers 653 - 678 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Supplementary To Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, no. This is a letter of comfort. This is not a contract or something that is binding on a future government. We make it very clear in the letter that there is nothing in this letter that should be construed to somehow fetter the discretion of future governments, nor does it fetter the discretion of aboriginal governments. It's a letter of comfort saying here is what the government of today's position is with regard to a stable fiscal environment. That's as far as it goes. It's not fettering this one. It is certainly subject to any legislation that we may pass here. That was clear in the letter and in the discussions leading to the letter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, then, to the assumption that somehow we were giving away the farm with this letter of comfort, I sort of fail to see what we have actually given them. I think the letter has integrity and it has intention attached to it, but I don't think it's like a province that sold their power to the U.S. -- a certain province we know -- for years to come. They are going to be stuck with an agreement forever. I don't think it's anything like that. So in an effort, then, to clarify how this letter was interpreted or responded to by the Producers Group, I just wish the Premier could put it in context in terms of our intentions, their intentions and how this might have propelled them to go ahead with their hearing process. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, when Imperial and its partners invest $7.5 billion, that's a lot of money. It's enough money to run our whole government for seven years. When they invest that much money in one project, they want to get as much comfort as possible on a bunch of fronts. One of them includes the federal government and they've been negotiating with the federal government on that and they had a letter of comfort with the federal government for some outstanding issues. They also realized that we are negotiating devolution and resource revenue sharing. We will become more province-like within the life of this pipeline if not before the pipeline. They realize that is going to happen. So they want some comfort from this current government on where do we stand. Do we have some plan to somehow levy some tax on them? We made it clear to them that this is not binding on anybody. This is not a contract. It is simply a letter of comfort to say we are responsible, we are grown up, we will be fair to you, we will be fair to everybody. We believe municipalities will be fair when they levy municipal taxes, and we believe aboriginal governments will be fair when they negotiate fees for crossing their land. Mr. Speaker, this is simply a letter of comfort. I don't understand some people who see bogeymen around every corner who are afraid that this letter of comfort is somehow...Mr. Speaker, I realize the Member who asked the question understands what this means as a letter of comfort. That's all it provides. It's not binding as a contract. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Question 317-15(4): GNWT's 'letter Of Comfort' To Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Producers
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Item 6, oral questions. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.

Item 8: Returns To Written Questions
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I am in receipt of returns to Written Questions 6-15(4), 8-15(4), 9-15(4), 12-15(4), 13-15(4), 14-15(4), 15-15(4), 17-15(4), 18-15(4) and 19-15(4). Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 6-15(4): Taskforce On Year-end Expenditures
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Hawkins on October 12, 2005, regarding a task force on year-end expenditures.

I will not be establishing a task force to review year-end spending by departments. However, I do share the Member's concerns and have sent a letter to all Ministers

directing them to ensure departments monitor and control discretionary spending during the last quarter of the fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 8-15(4): Access To Special Needs Funding
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Ms. Lee on October 14, 2005, regarding access to special needs support.

  1. How much money, on a year-by-year basis, has been allocated for special needs funding for the last five years for the NWT as a whole?

The total amount of inclusive schooling funding allocated in the years 2000 to 2005 was as follows: $9.079 million in 2000-01; $11.336 million in 2001-02; $15.266 million in 2002-03; $15.937 million in 2003-04; and $16.817 million in 2004-05.

  1. What is the breakdown each divisional education council/district education authority received for this funding for special needs over the same time period on a yearly basis?

Later today, at the appropriate time, I will table statistics on the amount of inclusive schooling funding that each DEC/DEA received annually in the past five years.

  1. What is the criteria set out to determine how students with special needs qualify for special needs support?

Students qualify for support when a combination of assessment information, student performance indicators, parental information and/or other information indicates that a student requires either short-term remediation, an individual education plan, or program enhancement for the gifted student.

Sometimes specific conditions have been identified -- for example, dyslexia or spina bifida, hearing or sight impairments -- that warrant specific supports. However, many other students also need supports. For example, a new Canadian who does not speak English may attend English as a second language class, or a student whose parents do not read and are unable to help with homework may get help in homework as and when necessary.

A student in the NWT does not require a formal diagnosis or label in order to qualify for supports. This is because standardized assessments are often inappropriate for NWT students who are not represented by the norm group. While formal diagnoses are desirable, they are not mandatory once information is available to show what supports are needed.

  1. What is the process used to determine who among our student population have special needs and require additional support?

The process used to determine which students have special needs and require additional supports is as outlined in point three above.

  1. Please provide all ministerial directives issued in this regard.

Later today, at the appropriate time, I will table the departmental directive on inclusive schooling 1996.

The directive recognizes the importance of allowing all children equal access to education programs in their home communities with their peers. It also recognizes the importance of school/home/community partnerships that are required to offer relevant education programs. The directive is currently under review with the involvement of the education authorities across the NWT. Implementation is planned for the beginning of the 2006-07 school year.

  1. What is the number of students who require special needs support in our school system at the current time?

According to the last student support needs assessment in 2000, six students out of 10 were receiving at least one type of support in their schooling. This number includes students receiving a broad range of supports as mentioned in question three above.

The number of students with identified specific conditions in the school system was 800 students, or 8.3 percent of the school population in 2000. The department conducts periodic needs assessments because the student population changes slowly, over a period of several years.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 9-15(4): NWT Emergency Measures
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Yakeleya on October 14, 2005, regarding NWT Emergency Measures.

Mr. Yakeleya asked what departments are involved in the Emergency Measures Act.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs is given the authority under the Civil Emergency Measures Act to approve the Northwest Territories Emergency Plan, and designate various territorial and federal government departments with emergency responsibilities related to their mandates.

The Government of the Northwest Territories departments designated with emergency responsibilities under the Northwest Territories emergency plan are: Municipal and Community Affairs, Health and Social Services, Financial Management Board Secretariat, Executive, Environment and Natural Resources, Transportation, Public Works and Services, and Justice.

The federal government departments designated under the Northwest Territories emergency plan are: Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Border Services Agency, Parks Canada Agency, Environment Canada, Fisheries and Oceans, Human Resources and Skills Development, Indian and Northern Affairs, Industry, Public Works and Government Services, and Transport Canada.

Mr. Yakeleya also asked who in the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs takes the lead role.

Mr. Speaker, the deputy minister of Municipal and Community Affairs is appointed as the emergency measures officer by the Minister under the act, and takes the lead role for emergency management within the Government of the Northwest Territories. To assist the deputy minister in fulfilling these responsibilities, Municipal and Community Affairs has established two

emergency management positions; one to support community emergency planning and response, and one to coordinate territorial emergency planning and response. As well, regional superintendents in each regional office play an active role in emergency planning and response in their respective regions.

Mr. Yakeleya also asked how often are the emergency measures policy guidelines updated.

Mr. Speaker, like most legislation and government policy, the Civil Emergency Measures Act and the policies associated with the act are not updated frequently. The department, however, is currently considering changes to the disaster assistance policy, and is also preparing to begin a comprehensive review of the Civil Emergency Measures Act. The increased national concern of terrorist attacks and the passage of the federal government's new national security policy have necessitated the review of the Civil Emergency Measures Act.

Mr. Yakeleya also asked how many times does the staff meet with the communities.

Mr. Speaker, the regional superintendent, on average, visits each Sahtu community once every two months. These visits are usually at the request of the community government. Regional staff also visit each community in the Sahtu approximately once every three months. During these visits, Municipal and Community Affairs' staff meet with the community council or staff members to discuss their issues, priorities and concerns in program areas such as capital planning, recreation, land administration, fire protection/emergency measures and council and staff training. During the floor emergency of 2005 in Fort Good Hope, Municipal and Community Affairs' staff visited the community five times. The community emergency management coordinator, whose position is located in Yellowknife, provides advice and support to regional staff and also meets with communities upon request to provide training or hands-on assistance during an emergency.

Mr. Yakeleya also asked how communities are categorized in the emergency measures.

Mr. Speaker, communities are categorized as local authorities under the Civil Emergency Measures Act and, as such, are the first level of government responsible for responding to emergencies. The act outlines the authority and responsibility of community governments for emergency preparedness and response.

Finally, Mr. Yakeleya asked if there are any territorial-wide emergency measures action plans to deal with territorial-wide issues.

Mr. Speaker, the Northwest Territories emergency plan is the Government of the Northwest Territories' plan for responding to territory-wide emergencies. The Northwest Territories emergency plan guides the Government of the Northwest Territories emergency operations when the Government of the Northwest Territories responds to an emergency, supports a community government's or lead agency's response to an emergency, or is called upon as part of a response to a national emergency.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 12-15(4): Impaired Driving Day
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Yakeleya on October 18, 2005, regarding the Impaired Driving Day.

There are currently over 500 schools nationally that participate in the National Students Against Impaired Driving Day. In the Northwest Territories, St. Patrick's High School participated in this year's events. This Students Against Drunk Driving chapter, which has been operating for over 10 years, has been a strong voice for responsible behaviour and for measures to step up the fight against impaired driving. The Department of Transportation made an in-kind contribution of banners to the high school.

From 2000 to 2004, only the Inuvik region reported alcohol-related motor vehicle collision fatalities. During that period, five of 11 fatalities were alcohol related, which is approximately 45 percent of the total. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 13-15(4): Seniors' Facilities
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Ramsay on October 18, 2005, regarding seniors' facilities.

The Deline seniors' facility was constructed in partnership with the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation in 1993 at a cost of $2.56 million. The 16 unit complex contains 10 independent living suits and six extended care suites. Currently, six of the 10 independent living suites are occupied. The average vacancy rate for these suites is 80 percent. The extended care suites are currently being rented out to a preschool group.

The Fort Resolution seniors' facility was constructed in 1996 at a cost of $1.69 million. The Fort Resolution seniors' facility consists of a main building with four units and six satellite units. All six of the satellite units are fully occupied and two out of four of the units in the main building are occupied. The historic occupancy rate can be estimated at approximately 80 percent.

The seniors' facility in Tuktoyaktuk was construction in 2001 at a cost of $1.99 million. The 11 unit Tuktoyaktuk seniors' facility is currently occupied by five elders and one caretaker. There may be other elders that may potentially move in to fill some of the vacant units; however, any moves by elders will not take place until the spring when it is warmer. There has been reluctance by seniors in Tuktoyaktuk, who have lived in and raised their families in detached public housing, to move into the new facility. They have lived in detached public housing for many years and consider the units as their family homes. An estimate for the historic occupancy rate is not available for this facility.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 14-15(4): Market Housing Initiative
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

January 31st, 2006

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mrs. Groenewegen on October 18, 2005, regarding the market housing initiative.

In response to Mrs. Groenewegen's request, the cost of the market housing initiative is detailed as follows:

Phase 1: $2.75 million

Phase 2: $1.65 million

Monthly cost of maintaining vacant units:

  • • Fort Good Hope: $655
  • • Fort Liard: $535
  • • Fort Providence: $565
  • • Lutselk'e: $570

The corporation has acquired 44 housing units in the last two years with the intention of providing market housing to communities in need. Twenty-two modular units were purchased in 2004-05 with 20 of the units currently occupied: 15 units rented under the Market Housing Program, two units rented under the Supported Lease Program, three units sold, and two units vacant at this time.

The rented units are occupied as follows:

  • • 15 essential service suppliers occupy 11 units;
  • • a total of three GNWT program clients occupy three units;
  • • a total of two community government employees occupy two units;
  • • a total of one other community resident occupies one unit; and
  • • a total of 25 educational service provides occupy 24 other market housing units.

For 2005-06, a further 22 units are being constructed. Ten new duplexes and two units being transferred from public housing. These units are in the final stages of completion with only one rented at this time.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 15-15(4): Mental Health Treatment
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Braden on October 19, 2005, regarding mental health treatment.

The Territorial Treatment Centre and Trailcross provide specialized services for youth in the Northwest Territories. In fiscal year 2004-05, each facility operated eight beds at a cost of $1.160 million and $1.305 million respectively.

Southern residential placements provided specialized services for 27 children in fiscal year 2004-05 at a cost of $1.227 million.

There are four southern programs or institutions that provide specialized services for adults that are not available in the NWT. They are Mental Health (AB Hospital Edmonton), Specialized Mental Health Services, Not Criminally Responsible Clients Programs, and Behavioural/Residential Programs.

In fiscal year 2004-05, 52 adults received one of these services at a total cost of $3.832 million. As of early November 2005, 41 adults were receiving these services at a total cost of $2.125 million.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 17-15(4): Treaty-land Claim School Instruction
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Yakeleya on October 25, 2005, regarding treaty/land claim school instruction.

1. What are the grade levels in the Sahtu schools where students are taught about treaties 8 and 11 and the Sahtu land claim?

Later today, at the appropriate time, I will table a document including a chart of Sahtu schools and what they are teaching about Dene history throughout the kindergarten to Grade 12 levels. In particular, the chart will provide information on the NWT Social Studies curriculum for grades 4, 5, 6, 7 and 9 levels including a requirement to teach about Treaties 8 and 11 in Northern Studies.

In the Northern Studies 10 curriculum, treaties and land claims make up one complete module of the course, with the option for teachers and students to expand the students' exploration in the topics noted in the table within a second module.

2. What is the percentage of the courses on treaties or land claims that are taught per grade?

This question relates to teaching practice in the classroom and the amount of time spent on these topics. Later today, at the appropriate time, I will table a chart identifying the amount of time allocated by community school. Percentages are approximates as the time spent on these topics varies depending on the manner in which the subject is taught.

3. Can the department list the resources/documents that are used in teaching the students about the treaties or the land claim in Sahtu schools?

The department provides resources and documents produced to support both the study and actual teaching of the treaties and individual land claims. The department has provided all schools with the NWT History Timeline and Teaching Resource that has a component devoted to Treaties 8 and 11. The Education, Culture and Employment web site -- http://www.ece.gov.nt.ca/ -- includes many documents that teachers and resource persons can use in preparing to teach about treaties and the Sahtu land claims. In addition, schools have found the resources listed in a table that, later today, at the appropriate time, I will table.

4. Who are the teachers or community members used in teaching the treaties or the land claim in Sahtu schools?

Schools and communities choose the appropriate resource people to help teachers and students explore issues such as land claims and treaties. Teachers involve elders and other community resources in conjunction with the curriculum as noted in a chart that later today, at the appropriate time, I will table. In addition, teachers are planning to invite speakers including the chief negotiator for the self-government negotiations in Deline, the chief in Tulita, staff from local Dene and Metis organizations and other experts including elders.

5. How much of the social studies content is on the Treaty 11 and the Sahtu land claims?

The school curriculum includes references to Treaty 11. Teachers can explore issues of significance to their communities including study of the treaties.

According to the revision of the social studies curriculum for grades K to 12 that is currently underway, references to specific treaties are likely to be made in all schools at the grade 4, 5, 7, 9 and 11 levels.

6. How many elders in the Sahtu have been invited to Aurora College, our learning centres, or our schools as professors or instructors specifically to provide instruction on aboriginal courses?

Elders are regularly invited to Aurora College community learning centres, other college institutions and to schools. Later today, at the appropriate time, I will table information on the inclusion of elders who share their knowledge and expertise, traditional and otherwise. Numbers refer to all elders involved locally at the college and/or school levels, unless specified otherwise.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 18-15(4): Adult Literacy
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Lafferty on October 25, 2005, regarding adult literacy in the NWT.

1. Could the Minister tell me how much funding went to adult literacy basic education through Aurora College?

In the years 2004-05 and 2005-06 the Department of Education, Culture and Employment contributed $4.1 million per year to Aurora College for adult literacy and basic education. This includes $700,000 in Literacy Strategy funding.

2. How much did Aurora College actually spend on the Literacy Strategy for each community last year?

In 2004-05, Aurora College spent $700,000 in Literacy Strategy funds for ALBE in the communities. At the appropriate time today, I will table a breakdown of ALBE spending by community. The Literacy Strategy funds are directed primarily to communities that previously lacked funding for adult basic education programs.

3. Can the Minister give an explanation for the enrolment data to include completion rates in the Adult Basic Education Program for 2004-05 by community?

In 2004-05, 38 percent of the 651 ALBE students enrolled in Aurora College courses completed their course levels. Included in the tabled information I have referred to earlier, is a complete breakdown of ALBE enrolments and percentage completion rates. Completion rates for ALBE programming have historically been highly variable and are dependent on a range of factors.

4. Can the Minister provide information on total budget allocation for various literacy funds under the Literacy Strategy, and the amount each community receives through the various literacy funds available through the strategy?

Funding for community literacy is accessible through the community literacy development fund administered by the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. The total NWT Literacy Strategy budget allocation for 2005-06 was $2.460 million. I have included a breakdown of literacy funding allocations by community in the information I am tabling today.

5. Can the Minister provide information on what has been done to follow up on the recommendation of the internal evaluation of the NWT Literacy Strategy and the government's response to the recommendations on the internal evaluation?

The Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Aurora College and other partners have been working diligently to address the recommendations presented by the NWT Literacy Strategy interim evaluation.

An evaluation of the Literacy Strategy is scheduled for spring 2006. The recommendations presented in the interim evaluation will be utilized as a starting point for this evaluation, which will result in the development of a revised and renewed Literacy Strategy for the NWT.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 19-15(4): Atco Novel Housing Project
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Ms. Lee on October 25, 2005, regarding the ATCO Novel housing project.

Q. Given that the NWT Housing Corporation has been actively engaged in the negotiations with the federal government and ATCO Novel housing project in Calgary, Alberta, when would the Minister provide the detailed plan on the entire Novel housing project and discussion?

There are a number of key prerequisites to the Novel initiative becoming a reality. First and foremost, there must be a pipeline project. Second, ATCO must be the successful supplier of workforce housing and Mackenzie gas project must accept the Novel product as meeting its workforce housing needs. Third, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation must agree to contribute over $90 million to the project. Finally, MGP must agree to release the workforce housing at the end of pipeline construction at no cost.

To date, there have been extensive discussions with ATCO to ensure the housing product meets or exceeds Housing Corporation standards and can be cost effectively converted to quality permanent homes. There have also been extensive discussions with CMHC to secure their commitment to providing critical financial assistance to the project. There have only been preliminary discussions with Imperial Oil Ltd. as they have been reluctant to engage in full discussions until they make a decision on proceeding to the next stage of the pipeline project. Although the Government of the Northwest Territories has been very active in promoting the Novel initiative, we are at a stage where many questions still exist. As a result, a detailed plan such as you request is not practical at this point in the process. However, a status report and discussion with the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight and/or the

Standing Committee on Social Programs could occur at either or both committees' convenience.

In 2005, a proposal was submitted to then federal Minister responsible for Labour and Housing, the Honourable Joseph Frank Fontana, to ensure a funding commitment from the federal government.

Following a positive response from the federal government, and an announcement by MGP to proceed with the next stage of the pipeline project, implementation planning and consultations can commence in earnest.

The implementation planning process will take place over several years as it will involve consultations with communities, aboriginal groups and self-governments, labour, northern business and manufacturers. As the earliest availability for the conversion of Novel homes in communities appears to be 2011, it is our intention to use this time to the fullest extent possible to complete a comprehensive implementation plan. This time frame will provide northern business and industry with the opportunity to participate fully in the economic benefits that will be derived from this project here in the NWT.

Q: What is the budget breakdown of this project in terms of who is paying for what: How much is the federal government paying; how much is the territorial government payment; how much is ATCO paying?

The recent proposal to the federal government provides an estimated breakdown of project financing. As noted earlier, this initiative is premised on being able to level the MGP's investment in workforce housing for pipeline construction. The goal is to have MGP fully depreciate its investment in workforce housing over the construction period and release the workforce housing at the end of construction at no cost. The budget breakdown is as follows:

CMHC contribution - $119 million

GNWT contribution - $116 million

Private purchasers - $62 million

Total project funding - $297 million

How much of the final cost to purchasers will be assumed by GNWT versus private homeowners depends on the demand for the units and the ability of private purchasers to finance the cost. Obviously, the lower the capital cost to home buyers, the more units will be privately purchased and the fewer the GNWT will purchase for public housing purposes. Currently, we are estimating that 50 percent of the units will be privately purchased. The fundamental goal of this initiative is to provide quality affordable homes to meet the critical housing needs of non-market communities. Although there will be over $220 million of economic activity available for NWT businesses in the lot development and conversion process, the end goal of affordable housing cannot be compromised. Without this approach there is no way the GNWT could deliver 1,420 homes in this time frame at this cost and make such a substantial dent in critical housing needs.

Q. How is the territorial government going to fund its portion of the project?

Based on the assumptions contained in the proposal to CMHC, the net cost to the GNWT is currently estimated at $116 million. This cost will go up or down, depending on the number of units sold to private purchasers. Some of this cost can be funded from within the Housing Corporation's existing funding level, but some of it will require new financing. Given the substantial cost-benefit of this approach and the dramatic improvement in community housing that will be achieved, it is proposed that any net cost will be a wise investment well within the Housing Corporation's and the GNWT's financing ability.

Q. What impact would this have on other NWT Housing Corporation projects?

The proposed project will not have a negative impact on the Housing Corporation's program delivery. As the Novel units would not become available until 2011, the existing housing program and investments will continue in the interim. The infusion of homes through this project will allow us to make significant reductions in core housing need levels across the NWT after pipeline completion.

Q. Have the NWT Construction Association, NWT Chamber of Commerce, or NWT Association of Communities and other aboriginal governments been given such a public plan for discussion with their constituents? If not, when would they be?

Aboriginal leaders from across the NWT have been actively engaged in the Novel initiative. Over 30 northern leaders have toured the ATCO plant and the Novel show home to demonstrate the quality of construction and the quality of the end product. Community and aboriginal acceptance of the Novel product is seen as critical to the success of this initiative. The Housing Corporation, ATCO and the Deh Cho Bridge Corporation have been working on a pilot project using the Novel product.

Assuming commitments are made from the MGP to proceed with the pipeline project and the federal government makes a positive commitment on our recent funding proposal, the Housing Corporation will begin to work actively with the MGP group on the workforce housing component of the pipeline project. Consultations will also commence with communities on lot and infrastructure requirements, and with the business and manufacturing sector on how they can take advantage of the $220 million of local economic activity that will be provided by the Novel project. There will be more than enough work and opportunity to go around. In fact, our largest concern is with the capacity of the northern business community to meet the needs of the project.

Q. How does this ATCO Novel housing project plan include involvement of northern buildings and suppliers, not only on how to take part in the ATCO Novel housing project, but on other options that could be available for the $220 million plus housing project?

The Novel home represents a very significant opportunity for northern business, suppliers, contractors, manufacturers, labour and skilled trades and transportation companies. It is expected that the conversion work required to complete the home will be done in the communities with northern workers using materials supplied through northern companies. The Novel home features that will be completed in the communities include: completion of interior sheet rock walls, doors and trim; crack filling, sanding and painting; installation of new bathroom fixtures; installation of new kitchen cabinets; installation of new flooring throughout; installation of heating systems; electrical fixtures; exterior skirting; exterior steps; water and sewage tanks.

Every component of the conversion process represents an opportunity for northern business and labour. The Housing Corporation fully expects this project will attract a

lot of interest from both business and labour. It should be noted, however, that we are still in the early stages of this process. If we have a commitment from industry that it is proceeding with the gas pipeline and we receive a positive commitment from the federal government, we will then be in a position to discuss with northern business the very significant business opportunities that will be generated by the Novel project.

Q. What other options have been considered for how to spend $220 million plus housing investment and meet the social housing needs of the North, other than going with the ATCO Novel housing, and what cost-benefit analysis has been done on them?

It is the unique opportunity represented by the pipeline project that makes it possible to create 1,420 new homes in northern communities. In this sense, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity made possible by levering the significant capital investment in workforce housing being made by industry. This capital investment gives this project a head start over traditional stick-built approaches. Another unique feature of this project is the significant conversion component built into each home, which will generate employment and business opportunities.

Generally speaking, stick-built homes are more expensive, resulting in fewer homes and a slower pace in dealing with core need problems and satisfying future population growth and demand. Manufactured homes, though more affordable than stick-built, are still more expensive than the Novel home and do not represent the same level of economic activity for northern business and labour. Manufactured homes are often categorized as "trailers" in the North. The Novel home is not a trailer. It is an attractive, quality built two or three-bedroom home of approximately 1,378 square feet.

Novel home features include: durable metal roofs; R40 insulation; wood soffit; built up wood beam support; durable exterior wall construction; drywall interior; stipple ceilings; 1.75 bathrooms; modern kitchen area; energy-efficient exterior windows and doors. The Novel home represents extensive opportunities for local labour and business.

Q. How does this ATCO Novel plan include training opportunities for northern labour in northern communities, in what communities, in what regions, how many people, and how?

The training and capacity development component of this project will be developed as we proceed further with the implementation planning process. We view this as an important aspect of this project and have received assurances from ATCO that they will support training for northern labour. The locations will be determined as the planning process continues.

Q. How does this plan include meaningful partnerships with other departments and agencies such as Aurora College, Department of ITI, Transportation and others, as well as the construction and building industries in the North? Please explain their roles in detail.

The size of this project required interdepartmental coordination and planning at the government level and consultations with business, communities and labour. The Housing Corporation supports this approach. Following commitments to proceed by the MGP and the federal government, the Housing Corporation will submit to the GNWT a proposal to structure an interdepartmental working group to facilitate the planning and the implementation of the project.

Q. What work has been done with municipal governments and aboriginal governments to ensure a cooperative partnership regarding land development?

The role of municipal and aboriginal governments in the development of Novel homes is extremely important, particularly so in the development of suitable building lots and subdivisions. It is our intention to consult actively with all community government bodies through the NWT as soon as it is determined the gas project is proceeding and the funding from the federal government is available.

Q. Is there an inventory or plan on how the government will find 1,400 lots for those mobile units to be placed on?

The Housing Corporation continues to work on community lot inventories for all its program delivery requirements. MACA, as well, has a database with lot information per community. It is clear, however, that a lot of work will need to be completed in identifying and developing suitable building lots to accommodate the 1,420 new homes. The current proposal calls for investment in lot development to commence 24 months before the arrival of the housing units in the communities. This will leave time for zoning subdivision development and infrastructure investments to be made.

Q. Has there been any survey or means for input from the potential tenants to gauge the interest or support for this mega project?

As mentioned earlier, over 30 community and aboriginal leaders have toured the ATCO plant and Novel demonstration home. Plans are underway to field test the conversion process and to place show homes in select (central) northern communities. Marketing materials are being developed. The Housing Corporation has not as of this date surveyed residents to gauge interest in the Novel home. However, the 2004 NWT community survey revealed 2,260 households in core need in the NWT. According to the NWT Bureau of Statistics, approximately 1,600 new homes will be needed to satisfy incremental population growth and further overcrowding in NWT communities between 2005 and 2014.

Q. How much money would it cost the proponents of the pipeline project Novel housing, whoever is responsible, to pay for the removal of the campsite trailers if they had to move them after use and not be turned into Novel housing units?

Estimates for the removal cost of traditional workforce housing dorms from the NWT following completion of the pipeline by the MGP are $25 million.

Q. The Minister indicated in this House that he expects to move 100 mobile units a year. Given that estimation, it would take at least 14 years to move 1,400 units. Where would these units be stored in the interim and secured and protected from the elements and potential vandalism?

We estimate Novel home delivery and conversions will begin in 2011 and be completed by 2014. We estimate delivering 460 to 470 per year. Implementation planning will also take into account work camp decommissioning schedules. The timing for delivery of Novel homes to communities will take into account the decommissioning schedule. This will support delivery efficiencies and reduce handling and storage requirements. In this

respect, the need for security requirements will be reduced as work camp security will remain in place until the completion of the decommissioning process.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 19-15(4): Atco Novel Housing Project
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to opening address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Bill 13: An Act To Amend The Financial Administration Act
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, I wish to report to the Assembly that the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight has reviewed Bill 13, An Act to Amend the Financial Administration Act, and wishes to report that Bill 13 is ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole.

Bill 13: An Act To Amend The Financial Administration Act
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Bill 14: Public Airports Act
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to report to the Assembly that the Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development has reviewed Bill 14, Public Airports Act, and wishes to report that Bill 14 is ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole.

Bill 14: Public Airports Act
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

Tabled Document 76a-15(4): Inclusive School Funding 2000-2001 To 2004-2005Tabled Document 76b-15(4): Educating All Our Children: Departmental Directive On Inclusive Schooling 1996
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have several documents to table. Further to my Return to Written Question 8-15(4), I wish to table the following document entitled Inclusive School Funding 2000-2001 to 2004-2005 and Educating All Our Children: Departmental Directive on Inclusive Schooling 1996.

Tabled Document 77-15(4): Treaty/land Claim School Instruction
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

As well, Mr. Speaker, further to my Return to Written Question 17-15(4), I wish to table the following document entitled Treaty/Land Claim School Instruction.