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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Could I just get an update from the Minister as to where he is with this review of supplementary health programs? This has been under review for quite awhile now. I do understand it is a complex area, but could I just get information as to when might we be able to see the end results of his review? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Ms. Lee. I think that question is more in line with 6-33. So perhaps we can approve 6-31 and we'll just move on.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Okay, agreed. Thank you. Page 6-33, activity summary, supplementary health benefits, operations expenditure summary, $17.683 million. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

I had agreed on the previous page and I had moved on. So I think the Minister did hear my question. Could I get him to give us an update on where he is with the review of the supplementary health benefits? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Minister.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we've been engaged in a fairly long process of consultation and we've met with a number of groups just before Christmas to have another major consultation plan with the seniors, but we do plan to be able to come forward by this spring with the results of the work and some options for consideration. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That sounds like we may be able to get somewhere and have some action plan in by the business plan this fall. The Social Programs committee has periodic briefings on these items. When would the Minister be prepared to come before us and share with us what he learns, and could this happen before the June session? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Minister Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, we'd be very happy to add that to the list of briefings that the committee is going to budget time for in the coming weeks. So we'd be very happy to do that at the convenience of the committee. Thank you.

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The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Thank you, Ms. Lee. We're on page 6-33, activity summary. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Chair, can I ask the Minister again would he look at considering travelling for the seniors because they needed some support, and again, some of the elders they won't stand up or if they go to travel out from the smaller communities into the larger centres in terms of travel with escorts, would the department consider a policy that would ensure that these elders have escorts when they travel out to larger centres, rather than just a case-by-case basis because a lot of them may fall between the cracks on this policy here? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Yakeleya. Minister Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, what I will commit to is I will commit when I meet with the board chairs -- and we meet with the CEOs and, as well, with the Stanton folks -- that we reinforce the need to be very sensitive to the requirements of those elderly folks that are travelling that may need assistance, and that if there's a question, the precautionary principle is that we err on the side of the patient so that we don't have people falling needlessly through the cracks. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Anything further, Mr. Yakeleya?

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, when they meet and look at the different policies on the board here that this can be communicated to the bands and the M‚tis and the hamlet, but also to the chairs and that the elders really understand this policy here. So the need to have a clear communication plan with this. Just a suggestion here. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Mahsi, Mr. Yakeleya. Minister Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Member has provided good advice and we will take the steps to ensure that the authorities, and the chairs, and the staff transmit this so it gets down to the people requiring the service. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. We are on page 6-33, activity summary, supplementary health programs, operations expenditure summary, $17.683 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Page 6-35, activity summary, supplementary health programs, grants and contributions, contributions, total contributions, $10.273 million. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Mr. Chairman, I don't know if this is the exact place to ask about recoveries of expenditures. I know that it's been a chronic dispute or discrepancy that we've had with our friends in Ottawa at either Health Canada or Indian and Northern Affairs to collect all of the expenses that we put into providing health care services for aboriginal people and M‚tis. I'm wondering if, as I say, this would be the appropriate time to ask. How are we doing on that chronic financial aspect of recovering costs? Have we got things more or less sorted out with Ottawa? What's our status here, Mr. Chairman?

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Murray.

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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Over the last year, we've been successful in dealing with the president of Indian Affairs in Ottawa negotiating a change in the agreement for the hospital and physician services for aboriginal people, so that it's now a grant program as opposed to a contribution-based program from the federal government to the territorial government. What that means is we don't have the one, or two, or three-year disputes with the federal government over the amount of a claim. So instead of having to sometimes be three years behind in getting the final adjustments and audits done, we've been able to...Through the grant process, we'll be able to get our money quicker and deal with that. What hasn't been dealt with yet is the fact that the program is still capped by the federal government at two percent growth per year. Of course, the GNWT has to supplement that with our own funding and there is no additional funding being given by the federal government beyond their cap in this program. So I guess the good news is we won't have to wait for the cash to come in, but it's still at a capped level.